Prepare to be whisked away on a whirlwind journey through the uncharted territories of conspiracy theories, ancient enigmas, and gravity-defying UFOs as Big Mikey returns to the mic! This episode, we entangle with the UFO phenomena in Bonnie Bridge, Scotland, debate the moon's cooling light, and sink our teeth into the sensational claims of Admiral Richard E. Byrd and his encounters with a Galactic Federation (https://www.nationalwarcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Admiral-Byrd-Secret-Diary.pdf) . With a hearty dose of skepticism and humor, we navigate the skeptical realms of space theories and the existence of satellites, inviting you to ponder alongside us the authenticity of what's really out there.
Venture with us as we tread between the profound wisdom of ancient civilizations and the earth-shaking mysteries of natural forces. Revel in stories of mountaineering and the sheer audacity of the human spirit in the face of nature's unpredictability. From the chilling implications of gravity and UFOs to diving into the idea of a Galactic Federation, every tale and debate is designed to spark your curiosity and challenge your worldview.
Closing out this epic episode, we ponder the deep mysteries of human consciousness, reincarnation, and the bizarre experiences on the streets of Amsterdam. Big Mikey's vibrant perspective paints a picture of a world filled with legendary adventurers like Hunter S. Thompson, the shadowy influence of the World Economic Forum, and societal tensions that seem as complex as the cosmos. So buckle up, listeners, for a ride through discussions that promise insights, laughter, and maybe even a few moments of awe at the grand tapestry of our world's adventures.
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Prepare to be whisked away on a whirlwind journey through the uncharted territories of conspiracy theories, ancient enigmas, and gravity-defying UFOs as Big Mikey returns to the mic! This episode, we entangle with the UFO phenomena in Bonnie Bridge, Scotland, debate the moon's cooling light, and sink our teeth into the sensational claims of Admiral Richard E. Byrd and his encounters with a Galactic Federation (https://www.nationalwarcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Admiral-Byrd-Secret-Diary.pdf) . With a hearty dose of skepticism and humor, we navigate the skeptical realms of space theories and the existence of satellites, inviting you to ponder alongside us the authenticity of what's really out there.
Venture with us as we tread between the profound wisdom of ancient civilizations and the earth-shaking mysteries of natural forces. Revel in stories of mountaineering and the sheer audacity of the human spirit in the face of nature's unpredictability. From the chilling implications of gravity and UFOs to diving into the idea of a Galactic Federation, every tale and debate is designed to spark your curiosity and challenge your worldview.
Closing out this epic episode, we ponder the deep mysteries of human consciousness, reincarnation, and the bizarre experiences on the streets of Amsterdam. Big Mikey's vibrant perspective paints a picture of a world filled with legendary adventurers like Hunter S. Thompson, the shadowy influence of the World Economic Forum, and societal tensions that seem as complex as the cosmos. So buckle up, listeners, for a ride through discussions that promise insights, laughter, and maybe even a few moments of awe at the grand tapestry of our world's adventures.
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Hello and welcome to this week's episode of Conversations with an Investor. We've got a returning guest, big Mikey. He's back to discuss the world of tattoos, the world of TikTok, conspiracy theories part two, and our latest trip up the Scottish Moon Rose. What's up next? And his new orange jumpsuit. So if you're about any of the mountain ranges in Scotland and see a big, huge giant guy in an orange outfit, don't worry, it isn't an escape convict, it's just Big Mikey and his new attire. So, without further ado, let's dive right in. Where do you want to start? Any particular topic that's came up? Tell me what was interesting was the Bonnie Bridge. You heard that one before.
Speaker 2:As in the Bonnie Bridge here.
Speaker 1:Bonnie Bridge is the UF capital of Scotland.
Speaker 2:UF UFO.
Speaker 1:There has been more sitans of UFOs and Bonnie Bridge than anywhere in Scotland, so much so it's been a hotspot for a prolonged period of time that even the council were going to capitalise on it by creating a trail that led you to the UFO hotspot.
Speaker 2:Is it? I have never, ever fucking heard that.
Speaker 1:Somebody mentioned that in the comments in the last video that they were like you need to check Bonnie Bridge and I'm like what.
Speaker 2:The only thing I can about Bonnie Bridge is there was some yahoo on that fucking, on that fucking in that programme where you'd get married and they'd pay and film it Married at first sight no, it was older than that. I can't even remember what it's called, like one of my tattoo artist pals. He was on it too, but it was that what did, they do. They just got married at the local miners, like baller. That's the only thing I know about Bonnie.
Speaker 1:Bridge.
Speaker 2:Isn't it next to like Kill Cuck and Tillich or Kill Scythe or something like that? Which one I'd say that?
Speaker 1:makes sense. It goes that closer to Kill Scythe.
Speaker 2:Ah, you just have to move away. Aye, aye, come on. Aye, I hang up and drove through it. You don't get excited, or apparently loads of excitement. We obviously want to look it up. Et is favourite holiday home. We weren't looking up.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't know if it beats shots for UFO alien interactions with finger in the bum hole, but it seems that people are pretty hot to drop. They're hot to drop with Bonnie Bridge.
Speaker 2:Obviously I kind of like Deckman Lovey.
Speaker 1:I've got that one. So it says a town in Falkirk. Scotland is gaining notoriety for being a hot spot for reported UFO sightings. The frequency of the sightings has been referred to as the UFO capital of Scotland due to its unusually high frequency of reported UFO sightings in the area.
Speaker 2:I wonder what the statistics of drug use is in that area as well.
Speaker 1:Well, it must be the UFO kind, I mean, because I mean a lot of people.
Speaker 2:Just like that is the concentrated hot spot of where LSD is taken, mostly in Scotland, I think. So I think we should cross level these. Take the drug info and the UFO info and if there's a little overlap I feel like we could rule that one out. Why the fuck would? What would be the interest in Bonnie Bridge or Falkirk, if you like, or even fucking Deckman? There's nothing there. Nothing there's, let's say, six hussies and a load of trees.
Speaker 1:This is the thing with the UFOs, is that I mean, apparently there's certain energy spots around the earth that have significance, some sort of?
Speaker 2:Well, there's loads of theories that there's loads of these sites around the world that are essentially markers and there's looking at random shit that can't kind of explain, like why is that there? And it's almost like a Like a map, if you like. Rosalind Chapel is like that.
Speaker 1:Apparently, the veil is very, very thin down there. Rosalind Chapel comes up in a load of different things as well, because when you go down the Holy Grail path.
Speaker 2:That's where that all leads to as well. That's it. I've never actually been along the road to.
Speaker 1:I know what do you mean. I've cycled past it. You ever actually went to it, though I was part of his.
Speaker 2:I had my own problems.
Speaker 1:I had a lot going on. I was the bad luck guy. The last thing I did was a thin veil and some sort of interdimensional experience any kind. I still had to cycle the rest of my home, so I had no inclination at all. I know I have never.
Speaker 2:Because it's one of the ones that. Can you see the sign? I can't really go there one day. I just never have.
Speaker 1:I have to take it one day.
Speaker 2:But a few roads lead there.
Speaker 1:I've never had an alien one leading there, but I mean, I don't know if it's big for UFOs and such, but it's more the spiritual element there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's apparently where they ended up there on the Da Vinci Code.
Speaker 2:Ah, because that's where they traced the bloodline of Jesus too, or something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, mary Magdalene, and.
Speaker 2:I went down her bloodline and found Immaculate Conception. Oh, that was this. Is it A few people?
Speaker 1:have dined out on that over the years as well, haven't they the what A few people have dined out on that over the years? It must be Immaculate.
Speaker 2:Conception. This is what I'm saying. It's good enough for me. I got drunk and never cheated on you. God came and put a baby in me. It's a very good name.
Speaker 1:The chosen one. Who's God's greatest son?
Speaker 2:You got smashed, you got pumped. He didn't want to tell. Joseph, and now they've wrote a pretty extensive book on you. Aye, good effort, lass.
Speaker 1:And he bought it.
Speaker 2:Joseph's a yes man. Joseph's a yes man.
Speaker 1:He's a benefit of the doubt guy. He's a good save-aster, he's a sort of like. I can't confirm it exactly because I wasn't there, so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 2:It was a while ago. It's like you know what, mary, I'm going to ask you once, honestly, and if I find out otherwise, we're over, he's played along with it and he's brought up. We fucking Jesus as his own. And then he got nailed to a fucking cross.
Speaker 1:Do you think it was? Joseph just had enough.
Speaker 2:That's that he found out that Ben Wisney has and nailed him to a cross.
Speaker 1:And I think what happened is a CSA had sort of been formed in the 33 years and started to chase his real dad and God wasn't having any of that. He's having a little pain in the shoulder, he's like nah, no me mate.
Speaker 2:That stupid cunt down there put his name on the dotted line.
Speaker 1:So, listen, I've created this place in six days. This is the thanks again.
Speaker 2:I was actually recently I can't even remember how he got into the topic looking at what Jesus' actual real name is and it's fucking. Ah. The fucking signalling here is terrible. I'm sure the sign is sounding like Abramovich or something. It was odd Abramovich.
Speaker 1:I'm sure it would be fucking odd.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it would sound along the lines.
Speaker 1:I just put the laptop down.
Speaker 2:It's coming back out and obviously we westernized it all, so Joseph wasn't actually Joseph, it was Yusuf Yusuf. But Yusuf wasn't the first name, it was something Yusuf. I'm sure it was Abramovich, it was something like that. So I'm sure his real name was fucking like Jesus Abramovich or something Jesus of Nazareth. No, that's not his actual fucking.
Speaker 1:The name is derived from the Hebrew Looks like Yusuf, which means to deliver or rescue. Yusuf Ben Yusuf is the term Christ. It's the title, not the name. It's translated from the Greek word meaning the anointed one or the chosen one. Yusuf Ben Yusuf. I was the guy who cleaned my vanity. It was called that he was from, so it's Joseph's real name. You actually get the wee hang of it. Oh, joseph's real name. I think it meant Jesus's real name.
Speaker 2:No, because you don't get any clear shit on it, because the fucking Catholic who was his?
Speaker 1:second name.
Speaker 2:I'm sure it was Abramovich or something, but just type in Joseph Joseph, fucking real name, jesus Abramovich. Joseph, fucking real name, jesus is fucking real name.
Speaker 1:Joseph, fucking real name.
Speaker 2:Whatever I? Can't even remember what I typed in. Joseph Better write Ruski Tushki name like Okay, I went there and we rabbit hole on lunch one day Because I wonder what his actual fucking name was. Saint Joseph, you must be finding something. I typed in one hang and got a clear boss.
Speaker 1:Have you ever seen Dodgy search history.
Speaker 2:You know finding it. Honestly, it was fucking. What did you search?
Speaker 1:Joseph's Jesus dad name.
Speaker 2:Jesus is old dad's name. Jesus, old dad. I got signal. Hold it to the sky in this fucking black spot. I haven't even I haven't even named one of them. I found a name on there. Come on in, let's see what you've got. I've got one bar of fucking 4G. You're on the interweb.
Speaker 1:That's right.
Speaker 2:I was saving hookable. We said that last time you were going to share it with me. I didn't think we ever did. We just got fucking Apple jamie out.
Speaker 1:Right, you're connected to the wifi.
Speaker 2:You searching for it. Click on Not connected. What is it? 2gnx, right, I'm clicking it. Bosh, right, we have the Zawifi, as they call it in Holland. Why is it no working? There we go. This is like a week in the jail.
Speaker 1:The only thing worse than no signal is when it says that you have signal and you've clearly got none.
Speaker 2:Or when you're buffering for 7 years.
Speaker 1:Is that your phone next to mine?
Speaker 2:That was mine.
Speaker 1:I thought it was mine You're at it.
Speaker 2:No, honestly, I fucking. Nazareth Joseph Nazareth His surname was not fucking Nazareth.
Speaker 1:Hebrew Yosef, first century Jewish man, Nazareth.
Speaker 2:It was from Nazareth. This is telling me all sorts of nonsense. Fucking. Octavius is the biological fucking father of Jesus, according to historians, but Octavius was a Roman general, allegedly.
Speaker 1:Well, this is the thing about the Roman Catholic Church is that they reckon that the Roman Empire never actually died.
Speaker 2:No, it just became the church, which is why they've got all that bangin' coin and money and all the fucking ancient art and history. They could only have if they were the Roman.
Speaker 1:That was the fate currency, the Latin for to degree or let it be done. So that was where the fate comes from, the fate currency. They were the ones that said look, we authorise this to take place or we authorise it as money.
Speaker 2:Joseph's real, real name, aye Yosef Abraham.
Speaker 1:Abraham's a bit fucking close, far away from fucking Abramovich.
Speaker 2:I was close enough, so I Yosef we were in the same fucking alphabetical letter. Basically, his fucking name is Yosef Abraham.
Speaker 1:I think he's got a bit of fucking problems. If his bird's been impregnated by a celestial body, I think that his surname's rather fucking low on the priority list in terms of Joseph. There's some questions that we need to ask your brother. We're going to make you a saint, but you're going to need to look all the way in some of these events that have took place.
Speaker 2:So I it's fucking Yosef Abraham, but he was known as Yosef Ben Yakov in the Bible, or it's his Hebrew name.
Speaker 1:They're all running around me new IDs.
Speaker 2:Well, this kind of has got fucking about six different names.
Speaker 1:The old version of Identity Theft back then. I just fucking make it up. I mean, look, mary's been impregnated by some dude that's just claiming God. Yosef's running around with somebody else's ID. So it's all the same things that happened just 2000 odd years ago.
Speaker 2:And Mary's names name, fucking Mary, it's Miriam.
Speaker 1:It's close enough for you know the old New Testament, the years you want to see. When I never heard that I found earlier on. I don't know if you've heard of this one, the Black Knight Satellite.
Speaker 2:Black Knight Satellite. Yes, it vaguely rings a bell, but I'm going to say no, because it could be. I might be picking up a fucking movie reference somewhere.
Speaker 1:Well, a lot of these are listed in movies, so let's just give you. The Black Knight Satellite is a satellite that the reckons of extraterrestrial origin. It's observing all the on-goings.
Speaker 2:Yes, I fucking have heard of this and it's just there, is it no? Sound like it's quite a distance out, is it no? I'm pretty sure it's like outside our orbit or some pitch like that.
Speaker 1:So it says the Black Knight Satellite conspiracy theory is that a spacecraft of extraterrestrial origins is near the polar orbit of Earth and that NASA is covering up its existence in origin. The conspiracy theory continues several unrelated stories into one narrative. So a photo taken during the STS-88 mission, claimed by some to show the Black Knight Satellite, is catalogued by NASA as a photo of space debris. The space journalist James Oberg considers it probable debris of a thermal blanket, confirmed lost during the mission. This is back to UFOs where old swamp gas it's just an easy fit.
Speaker 2:So it says here that the you could say anything back in the day, though, because people weren't ready to fucking accept anything like that.
Speaker 1:Well, when I was looking up earlier on, I was like this is, I've never heard of this one and I thought, well, this would be worth a look, because it's very like. If you look at the UF, the conspiracy theory stuff, it's rare that you get something that you've not heard about.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And this is what struck me strange.
Speaker 2:I was watching one the other day and guys were talking about it. There are no. You cannot find any actual pictures of any satellites. You cannot find a photo of a satellite, one of the ones up in orbit.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All computer renderings. No one has ever actually physically seen a photograph or footage or anything of a satellite. It's all computer imaging, all of them.
Speaker 1:What's the theory behind that?
Speaker 2:Just that. Well, the people that believe we're inside something, that satellites don't exist, it's all just high altitude weather balloons with shit on the end Right. Essentially and that's what one of the guys is saying he's like Google it Try and find a picture of a satellite that isn't a computer edited image Is that you will not find one.
Speaker 1:How would you know?
Speaker 2:What if it's a computer edited image?
Speaker 1:Because you can fucking tell.
Speaker 2:How, what do you mean? How? Some of the stuff's, some of it's really good, but you can still tell. So if you've got a satellite of this hanging space, cool, who took the photo? We've not been up in orbit kicking about fucking around for ages. They go to the space station and they bounce back down and apparently there's fucking thousands upon thousands, upon thousands of satellites up there and apparently it's looking quite junky.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean. Another thing would be that how do you, Would you have reports of meteors coming in and hitting satellites that are in orbit? It would be a common occurrence.
Speaker 2:Apparently it's not.
Speaker 1:So what's Google images on the horizon?
Speaker 2:It's not computer images. There's not an actual what are they taking? The imagery. With what do you mean?
Speaker 1:So, like you go to Google, you know Google images is taking satellite imagery of the Earth, so it's Google satellites.
Speaker 2:Well, there's that theory that all NASA stuff's edited and if you take any images that sat up up of our planet, you can put it in a Photoshop and fuck about the saturation. It'll show you every single bit that's been edited in the photo, every single bit, because they've done it quite simply Like a lot like the first image NASA ever released to the planet. They've just like clouds are independent like a fingerprint. You don't get two clouds look the same. This whole planet is scattered with clouds that are identical. They've just copied and pasted all over the camp.
Speaker 1:This goes back to the bother that they got in about the moon landings. So one of the questions that came in about like for the post earlier on was one of the guys had said that his daughter or boyfriend had said look, they're trying to convince me that the moon landings were faked.
Speaker 2:And it's one of those ones where it depends who you listen to, because there are decent arguments for both parties, but I would say there is more evidence to suggest that it is fake than it is real. There's so many people that state you cannot go to the fucking moon. And then Buzz is now aphids chomp and is telling you he didn't go. And now he's got two minders with him at all times to fucking shut him up if he says something. Fucking shouldn't he? And again, though, this is the problem with any conspiracy theory You've got even the guys that were there when they apparently were there when they were filming it. You could be talking shit, you know what I mean Like you could be lying.
Speaker 1:The photography was like. You know, there's no wind in space, so how have they got the flag to have a wave in it?
Speaker 2:Well, I spoke to a physicist about that and with the motion of putting it in the ground, the vibration that was created could make the flag have motion.
Speaker 1:What vacuum did they test that in?
Speaker 2:Fuck knows. But again, this is the hang like you can ask the questions and someone can give you their output on it. They could be right, you could be right, you're never gonna fucking know. But he says when you put it in, it's like the thing that fucked him up is the dust. So when they're walking it's settling too fast for zero gravity. That's the only thing he's like the flag I think is explainable.
Speaker 1:I say he could come up and theorise why.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he could explain why the flag was in motion, the vibration the action of putting it in would create, and there's nothing to stop that doing that, it would just happen.
Speaker 1:It's showing you the lunar rover that lands and it looks like a homework project made out of tin foil. And they were this thing landed on the moon. Yeah, you know, they go there's just no way. It's tin foil. It's what it looks like. It looks tin foil.
Speaker 2:There's a millimetre of fucking mother's pie of tin foil. Happy shopper stopping you. Turnix teacake Basically what the crack was the physics boy? He was like it's the dust. I can't explain he's like because it's settling too quickly. There's no nothing there that should. They've got weighted boots on to keep them down. That dust should just keep floating out. The other thing was.
Speaker 1:You see the imagery about the sun space. So on the moon. The moon is illuminated by its position relative to the sun, so when we see it it lights up as a half crescent or full moon and that type of thing. So when they were on the moon and the photography that it was taking, the light source is coming from two directions. You wouldn't have that in the moon. No because the only direction would be from the sun.
Speaker 2:And the photography where they landed and where the where the planet is in the photos is in the wrong place, because where they landed on the face of the moon, we would technically the planet would be above them, not over their shoulder, if you get me. So that's another one.
Speaker 1:Is that like the first selfie, do you reckon?
Speaker 2:100% must be. No, no, actually I know when the first selfie Well, I can't remember what it is, but the photo of the first ever selfie is documented like I'm sure it was an American president, like in the early 1900s or some shit, that took the first ever selfie. I don't know why. I fucking know that that came up one day. It was like the first ever selfie. I follow one of these pages as like random historical photos that you'll never, ever see. It's quite fucking good actually. I think I know what I can is right. So if Neil Armstrong was the first man to set foot on the moon, who filmed him getting out the fucking lunar module? It's like it's funny. You say that because you see the.
Speaker 1:You know you see these shows. I've been asked a few times. Maybe I've been asked the same thing do the day in the life. Show me a day in your life. That'd be amazing. One guy who the fuck is getting up to set up the camera and for the alarm clock to go off to the? Oh, let me jump out my bed.
Speaker 2:Well, we were going to, so I was going to do a spot on YouTube, sort of series of just like the day in the life of a tattooist type fucking hang out and that was going to be one of the fucking.
Speaker 2:One of the first ones was just, you know, the, and it was actually wasn't really so much going to film me, it was a, quite, he had a, he had a, he had a concept for it which was quite cool when it was just sort of we spots and it was just like more feet, ken, just like fuck it, I don't. He had an idea in his head and then, as you, as you were going driving, doing the, you'd pan up the van and you'd get out and blah, blah, blah, whatever the fucking crack was. I don't know why we didn't do it, it just didn't materialize.
Speaker 1:Why? Why the feet?
Speaker 2:He had a. I had an idea which when he explained it it sounded quite cool, just like a sort of joking can walking out your house cause you've got kids, you know, kicking a skateboard out the way or a fucking. Just the idea he had. It was quite cool. Like I liked it. It could have been quite a decent we sort of intro.
Speaker 1:A bit different. Aye, and what was his thoughts on the moon? I? Never asked him, but the other thing is like like the you see the body language when you landed back on earth. The press conference. No, I've not watched that to be.
Speaker 2:I've seen them when they get pulled out of the thing, image like a that splashes down.
Speaker 1:But I've never actually I've not watched any press conferences and you know the survival capsule or sort of reentry vehicle, whatever it's called, but the they do a press conference and people are looking at their body language completely dejected, not saying anything and like really really sort of subdued, okay, and I'm supposed to get, I mean, if it did happen, coming back in at 125 millon hour in a flaming tin can you're probably going to be a wee bit cunt even after that Like you think? You'd be buzzing, like you would be.
Speaker 2:you'd be sitting there, you were maybe, I think, you'd be buzzing when you hit the water and then your adrenaline would wear off and you'd be fucked, flattened.
Speaker 1:You think you come back after an experience like that and you're thinking I cannot be bothered with a press conference.
Speaker 2:Aye, basically I thought I was going to die at least 700 different points coming through there. I'm fucking done.
Speaker 1:I've been doing Mach 24, re-entering the atmosphere, and you want to ask me when the last time I shot was I really, really cutting edge stuff.
Speaker 2:Were there trees on the moon.
Speaker 1:Some of the wild stuff like, I think, the things I heard about the moon there was. I think I told you about the Russian scientists. They'd crashed a lunar like a lunar vehicle. The Russians were during the Cold War. They actually went in different ways in terms of their space programs. So the Russians left essentially the moon to America in terms of landing someone on the moon and the Russians focused more on can you survive in space. So the Russians were really the leaders and proponents of the space station type thing and they broke lots of records in terms of enduring in space and learning how the body adapts, living in that environment or living in a survival environment, that's, within space. So the Russians took a different approach and one of the times that they went to, they'd launched a vehicle to the moon.
Speaker 1:This thing, I don't know what Ruski got it the wrong way around, but anyway, this thing hit at hugely, disproportionately high speeds relative to the speed that should have landed. That and this thing hit the moon at extreme velocity and what they thought the moon was just a solid piece of rock. But the moon vibrated when this thing hit it, which put a question on well, how is it possible that the moon is vibrating and what they reckon was that the moon they worked out. These two Russian scientists worked out that the moon had to have a mass of 30% or less of what it was considered before, and they thought well, the moon must be hollow.
Speaker 2:And then you step in and that's where you step into that world of megastructures. And you see, in the film Moonfall, that's about that the moon is a megastructure, which is where we came from. It's inside it, it's all a place, if you like.
Speaker 1:Well, this was the thing with one of the whistleblowers in the American space program. He'd seen imagery that was created like a mosaic. You know, we can't see the dark side of the moon. What he proposed was that, from the information he seen, there had been vehicles that went round the dark side of the moon and taken photography and it essentially was like a stop off, a pit stop area where the extraterrestrials would.
Speaker 2:So I was watching a hang with some guy from the either CIA or anyway some intelligence fucking department in the States and he said the footage of the moon landing is fake, not because we didn't go there, because what we found the public weren't ready for. And he says the structures, vehicles, spacecrafts, blah, blah, blah, just they're abandoned.
Speaker 1:Right. Well, have you heard of the Glattik Federation?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard about a guy who mind I was telling you that guy who's apparently like a bodyguard for whoever goes and meets these fucking people here and everywhere and all that chatter I'm sure I can't imagine if he was on here. We were talking about it, we were just talking about it we were.
Speaker 1:so the last time we were talking we were talking about someone that said like I had overheard the conversation because he was there as the heavy.
Speaker 2:Well, the before you delve into this. Apparently the moon emits its own light. If you take temperature readings in direct moonlight and in the shadow. It is warmer in the shadow and colder when you're in direct moonlight. So the sun creates heat. The moon apparently creates cold. The light is a cold light or some shit like that. I thought it was quite fucking interesting, that's different. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, remember, we were talking about Admiral Bird, yes, so Admiral Bird was big in the comments last time and I was thinking to myself well, what is this story with Admiral Bird? Well, admiral Bird essentially claimed that Antarctica was full of everything, essentially mysteries that were being covered up. Yeah, massively.
Speaker 1:Everything from hollow earth to extraterrestrials, to hidden Nazi bases, huge lands that weren't to be looked upon, mineral resources, extraterrestrial beings that he was in communication with, which had loads of controversy, but there was a guy that had found when I was looking up the Galactic Federation, which tie back to Antarctica. So there was a guy. In December 2020, the Galactic Federation came to attention in the media when a former Israeli space security chief, haim Eshrad, claimed that the Galactic Federation has been in contact with earth and the governments are in communication with these extraterrestrials. And it tied to Admiral Bird's story about his diary in Antarctica In Antarctica, if you believe the information that's been said about Admiral Bird's diary, what it said is that he went on a mission and landed in a.
Speaker 1:He was flying over a certain part of Antarctica. There was sort of foo fighter shaped flying orbs that had came up beside them. The radio transmission came through hello, admiral, we're going to be taking over your flight and you'll be going to come into land. Don't worry, we've got the controls. His controls didn't work and literally his plane was floated down. It went through a hole in the ice and ended up in the Crystal City, and in the Crystal City, the beings that were there. This was directly after World War II and Operation High Jump. So Operation High Jump, the United States government sent an armada. It was a research facility. You don't send this amount of ships as a research campaign. They sent a military armada down there just to have a look around and Admiral Bird had came back and said look, he said fuck off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they basically said look, we're really concerned about you playing with these atomic weapons and the Galactic Federation are concerned about what you're doing, so you need to go report back to your leaders that.
Speaker 2:It's not fucking up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you need to stop this. And that was the interaction where the Galactic Federation had passed the information to Admiral Bird and Admiral Bird had to relay it back. This was the thing that Admiral Bird was told was that he was told that if he brought any of this to light, his family would be killed. Everyone that he knew would be killed. He was threatened with that and that's why he waited till his deathbed to have it revealed in his journal or his diary. Shall I say?
Speaker 2:His diary published.
Speaker 1:His diary was found by I thought it was found. It was his fact published as of late.
Speaker 2:Read it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think it's online.
Speaker 2:It'd be an interesting read, like if it's actually just someone's track, like getting the just published the fucking diary. As it was written yeah, exactly Just as it's.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know. I can check.
Speaker 2:Because it'd be interesting. It'd be an interesting read like.
Speaker 1:I think there's videos on Admiral Bird's diary, which is apparently you know as much as you've not seen him writing.
Speaker 2:You might find snippets in that, but it'd be good to kind of someone's act if it's just can. Someone's just managed to get their hands on it and be like. Let's see. Does that be fucking dynamite? Having that read, or, and whether it's true or is aphisk chomp, it'd be fucking mint regardless, it's aphisk chomp story teller.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's pretty.
Speaker 2:Oh, I like, if it turns it to be bollocks, it's up there. We rolled out like it's fucking.
Speaker 1:It's. Well, this is a. It shows his entry. So I'm looking here the secret diary of Admiral Bird. It's on, it's on the webpage here and it says a copy of Admiral Richard B Bird's forwarded by Dr William Bernard, phd. And it says, reading through the following documentation, you should find the striking example of devotion. So it goes on to explain the times. The flight log is from the 19th of February 1947.
Speaker 1:And it was famously the operation high jump was closed down very, very quickly and without explanation other than it was due to the weather. So something isn't add up. But he says that. So it says here we were crossing over the small mountain range and still producing a proceeding northbound as best we ascertained. Beyond the mountain range, what appears to be a valley with a small river stream running through the center portion. There should be no green valley below. Something is definitely wrong and abnormal here. We should be over ice and snow To the port side, our great forests growing on the mountain slopes.
Speaker 1:Our navigation instruments are still spinning. The gyroscope is oscillating back and forth 10.05. I alter the altitude to 1400 feet and execute a sharp left turn to better examine the valley below. It's green, with either moss or a type of tight knit grass. The light here seems to be different. I cannot see the sun anymore. We make another left turn and spot what seems to be a large animal of some kind below us. It appears to be an elephant. No, it looks more like a mammoth. This is incredible. Yet there it is. Decreased altitude to 1000 feet and take binoculars to better examine the animal. It's confirmed, it's definitely a mammoth, like animal. Report this to the camp.
Speaker 1:So it goes on and it says here that the countryside below is more level and normal. I had me spot what seems to be a city. This is impossible. The aircraft seems lightly odd and buoyant. The controls refuse to respond. My God off to our port and starboard. Starboard wings are a strange type of aircraft. They are closing in rapidly alongside. They are disk shaped and have a radiant quality to them. They're close enough now to see with markings on them. It's a type of swastika. This is fantastic. Where were we? What has happened? I tug at the controls again, they do not respond. We are caught in the invisible vice grip of some type. 1135,. Our radio is crackle and our voice comes through in English with perhaps a slight Nordic or Germanic accent. Hello Herbert.
Speaker 1:This is thus furor. The message is welcome, admiral, to our domain. We shall land you in exactly seven minutes. Relax, admiral, you're in good hands. I know that the engines of our plane have stopped running and the aircraft is under some strange control and it's now turning itself. The controls are useless. 1140 hours, another radio message received. We begin the landing process now and in the moments the plane slightly shudders, it begins a descent through, caught in some sort of unseen elevator. Downward motion is negligible and we touch down with only a slight jolt. 1145,. I'm making hastily a last entry in the flight log. Several men are approaching on our foot towards our aircraft. They are tall, with blonde hair. In the distance, a large, shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of colour.
Speaker 2:So he says men, though so man, not alien man.
Speaker 1:Well, if anybody wants to read it, I'll stick it in the show notes.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't fucking ever read that.
Speaker 1:It's pretty extensive. So the thing with the like this is where it ties into the Galactic Federation, the Nazi base down in Antarctica, the thousand year Reich. That was an Aryan race, so I believe it was a race that had a bloodline from extraterrestrials, that had dominance or superiority over everyone else and that tied into the hollow earth because in Antarctica there seemed to be something going on that shouldn't have been possible and that then ties back to the Galactic Federation.
Speaker 2:I told you about that theory with the Catholic Church controlling entry to the earth. No, I'm sure we spoke about it last time. There's a guy and he says he's found evidence on it that there used to be, let's just say, open trade between the outer earthers and the inner earthers and that was controlled by the Catholic Church. And they shut it down.
Speaker 1:Who's the outer earthers?
Speaker 2:Us. We're on the outer crust and then the inner's who are inside and apparently there was open trade routes at one point and the Catholic Church controlled all that and I don't know something to do with sites of some fucking churches and shit like that which Ken and he just kiboshed it, apparently, or took control of it or whatever the crack was, but then he didn't produce any evidence of this. He told me he had it and then didn't show us. We were on this massive spiel and then just I see that drop by. Yeah Right, cool mate.
Speaker 1:What about the your pilot?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but the yeah yeah so because that debunks some of the flat airship. So obviously a lot of flat earthers believe that one of the reasons why they can confirm the earth is flat is because all autopilot systems on planes are programmed via a flat earth map. And flat earthers will hear this and go, oh, that's our map, the flat map, but no. So there's a term called the greater circle, which is how they plot flight pass and they have to make a flat earth map from the globe map in order to plot routes. So it is technically, yes, programmed off a flat earth map, but not the flat earth map, a flat earth map created for the system from the globe. They have to take the circle and flatten it down in order to plot. So let's return to it.
Speaker 2:Also, flight paths again, another one of the theories for flat earth is that the flight paths don't make any sense, and a lot of the flight paths, when they transfer them from the globe to a flat earth map, they start becoming almost straight lines, almost. And then I found out that there are roads in the sky which cost money to use, which is why some flight paths make absolutely no fucking sense, because it's the cheaper way to get to a place. So the flight may be longer and it may take a stupid fucking route, but that's because it is cheaper to go further use more fuel than it is to pay the boatman to cross a shorter distance. So that ticked off a couple of boxes as to some of the things that didn't add up, but I didn't realise that they had to pay to use the air.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's airspace of countries, so they charge for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. I didn't know, I didn't ever think of that before, but yeah, it makes sense once you said it, because I was like what? He's like hey, we have to pay to fly through air. He's like it's not all, just I'll just go there. He's like you can't. Some countries either not allowed to or it costs too much to use their airspace, so you find an alternative route. He's like it will make the flight longer and we will use more fuel, but it'll still be more cost effective than to pay to cut through their bit.
Speaker 1:I'm like, okay, have you seen that one, the Emirates flight that flies over the North Pole?
Speaker 2:They have to use a completely different navigational system as well. They have to use a grid system, because when you get up near the magnetic pole, all their shit stops working. They've got a thing called a grid system, which they use in order to navigate the upper hemisphere, because your compasses just fucking do that. They don't need to do nothing, they just shite themselves. I don't think their GPS system works very well up there either. They've got this other system they have to switch to.
Speaker 1:I'm assuming there's no satellites. Yeah, it's like there's no satellites. There's that as well.
Speaker 2:So fucking. It was quite an interesting chat, like it's one of the pilots, just as a commercial pilot another guy Flay for the RAF and the New Zealand Air Force, and then commercial, and he was the guy who was telling you he was going to go fly for the Antarctic Research Division but can't due to health issues. So he was a very intelligent man, very good to talk to.
Speaker 1:It'd be cool. It's that sort of sense of adventure. You look at some of the things I don't know if you remember the explorer Rano Fiennes, and he was the first one to go from the bottom there to the top there. I think he called it trans globe exploration.
Speaker 2:Well, you can call him ever the fucking one. He was the first to do that.
Speaker 1:How did he do that on a flat map? How did he get there? Surely it would be. I don't know how you do it. How do you go round a ball on a flat earth?
Speaker 2:Oh right, right, if the world's flat, well, you would just have a point of origin to the middle, essentially, how would you go round Antarctica, for instance?
Speaker 2:Well, this is where your belief system comes into play, because if you believe it's a continent, like we're shown on, a globe earth, then this is as well. If that's the chat, I mean, I know we're not allowed to go there for whatever reason, but can you better go to South America? She could go from Argentina, from Cape Town, in like two hours, but for whatever reason you're not allowed to do that. You've got to fucking spend 24 hours going round instead.
Speaker 2:Whereas if you circumnavigate Antarctica like Captain Cook tried to do back in the day because he tried to prove it was a continent and he couldn't spent years doing it. He's like if it was a continent I can't go round it, whereas he did the Northpony War. I think it took him a couple of weeks but he could not go round Antarctica at all. But again, he was also a drunken fucking sailor. He's just pashed. I can't, was it? No, it was, because am I right in saying Columbus, when Columbus found America, he wasn't fucking looking for.
Speaker 1:America was he, well, the story was. What we're told is that Columbus wanted to find the edge of the earth. And found America, and found America, which is quite cute, quite neat, isn't it? I'm going to find the edge of the earth. I didn't find the edge, but I found this by you know this land of the free. They just kick out everybody that's there, all the Native Americans.
Speaker 2:I know they got it tight like. So it depends what you believe.
Speaker 1:Did you ever see the Easter Island? See, easter Island's got the big huge, the monolith skulls or heads. They've excavated them. They're fucking huge 40 feet down, but the body's there.
Speaker 2:It's not just a head Aye the whole thing, because, as well, like, so, like, why would you carve that and then bury it in 40 feet of fucking mud? Yeah, you wouldn't. This is where you came across the mud flood chat, great mud flood.
Speaker 1:Great mud. I've seen a few videos about it.
Speaker 2:Because loads of buildings are being excavated and they're finding floors, stories upon stories of good architecture pillars. Why the fuck would you bury that? You know what I mean. Like, oh, we're going to do this and then just fill it in Like why?
Speaker 1:You see the guy in Turkey. That was funny how these things come about. Turkey's like trying to build an extension in his house. Ends up like trying to dig the foundation comes across like a cavity, ends up digging out to the bottom of the cavity and it's now. I think I'd be butchering and remembering it. But like 12 stories deep, like a dugout inner city.
Speaker 2:So it's a separate one to With that Gbekele Tepe. Gbekele Tepe is the site that was filled in Because that's in Turkey as well, though. Yeah, the same principle as that.
Speaker 1:With the same see the same design. That's on the monolithic structures in Easter Island, with the big heads and the hands that are over the naval. That's in Gbekele Tepe and it's in Egypt. And the carbon dating. They can only carbon date biological materials. They use C14 dating. Now what it means is that when something's biological, it'll absorb a certain rate of carbon and that carbon then over time will have a decay. So you can measure how long it's been there. You can't measure the stone, so they're using the biological material. That's round about it. And what they've found is that the timeline doesn't add up with what the mainstream idea of Egypt is, what the mainstream idea of Easter Island is. And then Gbekele Tepe's Massively older. Yeah, the Gbekele Tepe's the one that's put the spanner in the works. They've excavated it out, it seems to have been filled in, and we've got the same diagrams, the same design. So someone's used exactly the same design in Turkey, Easter Island, which is just off the South American Pacific coast 2000 miles of the coast, so not anywhere near.
Speaker 1:Turkey and it's also not anywhere near Egypt. So how have they managed to navigate this? And all the ancient stories are that after the great flood, there was a supreme being that had taken the seven masters around the world and spread the knowledge for civilization to rebuild itself. There was this whole story behind it, and what these rocks and symbols are is signs of the pre-Diluvian advanced civilizations, and it shows you them all different points in the world. But it was really calmness that we went, looking on a flat earth to find the edge, and that was when America was found. It just seems to be that something doesn't add up at all.
Speaker 2:I was watching a guy, a science-type lad, and it was quite well actually sent it to you, Can the boy that explained he's got a rough theory on the firmament about the oxygen and what temperature it freezes at and then the water's above and Because obviously here at the firmament everyone thinks we've just put a glass bowl over us. Who made the bowl?
Speaker 1:The snow globe. The snow globe is the idea, isn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and he's not saying whether it's flat or round, because regardless of whether it's flat or round, we have the ozone layer, we have the atmosphere, we have oxygen in the air and hysteria. Because, obviously, what's the atmosphere? Made up of O3, which is oxygen, tripled, if you like, on itself I can't even remind the specific term of it and oxygen freezes at negative 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Space is negative 450 degrees Fahrenheit, so where the space meets, the earth theoretically could freeze the oxygen which then would create, and when oxygen freezes, it's light, blue, sky blue colour, which would then clarify why our sky is sky blue. And then the water's above. Theory is it would be liquid oxygen as it warmed when it came back down. It would then just turn back into a gas and re-freeze and vice versa, and it would just have the ongoing process. So that was quite a cool theory. It could be complete bollocks, but at least he's fucking trying to explain if there is how it could be and what the crack might be.
Speaker 2:Because what is the chat? If we can pass in and out and the atmosphere is just whatever, then how come, like, what holds our oxygen in place? What stops, what creates the ozone layer and all this shit? What is the chat? How is there If there isn't? Well, let's just say a membrane, if you like. How does shit know? Just fuck off Gravity. But no one can explain gravity. Nobody. There's no scientist that can explain gravity.
Speaker 1:Go on to Bob Lazar. Bob Lazar went back and engineered the UFO and they called the sport model an AES-4. He had one of the things he was discredited for was. He came out and says that there was an element. That element was called 115. And this was a heavy metal that wasn't in our periodic table. And he said in 1989, this thing creates gravity in a way that we don't understand.
Speaker 2:But is he calling it gravity because that's all he can link it to in a sense, or is it just that kind of it could be like? What he was saying at the time was that the gravitational pull?
Speaker 1:is that the thoughts that were widespread and considered right at the time was that what created gravity was mass, so that everything had a gravitational pull and it found balance in the universe and the smaller mass would be attracted to it and that would be held in its sphere.
Speaker 1:That's essentially magnetism, though Similar to magnetism, but what was the difference with this one is that, let's say, gravity is a form of magnetism, for lack of a better word it's drawing things towards it. Magnetism is slightly different in that it needs to draw metallic things where gravity attracts mass. So it's anything of mass is pulled in via gravity and you have what they reckon was the bigger something was, the more gravitational pull it had. Bob Lazar had said this machine, this, UFO.
Speaker 2:What the fuck is that noise?
Speaker 1:The gravity is playing havoc with Mikey's pockets, pulling the money out of there right now.
Speaker 1:Isaac Newton saying you can't explain gravity right on cue. Mikey's pockets are getting emptied. But what was happening on that spaceship was that it was creating a gravity wave, and how Bob described it was that what it was doing was creating a wave shape round the ship. And what it was doing was it was pushing in the folds of what we would call space. And how he described it says imagine you put a bowling ball on a mattress right, and what you would have is imagine you had two bowling balls and you got them close enough. They would, you know, they would lean the mattress into each other and they would meet in the middle.
Speaker 1:He says what this thing's doing is imagine that you've got the bowling ball there and the bowling ball is a spaceship and it's creating a wave out in front of it and you push down in the mattress and the ball will fall into it. Well, that's what it's doing. He says that's a wave and it was like nah, the guys completely cook, completely nuts. Fast forward to 2016,. They found 20, it's actually gravity waves, because the whole idea of gravity was that it was just, you know, like a mass, like a mass equal gravity, that it couldn't be created in Bobble's Arslet. And that's not the case, because this is how these, these discs are flying through they're essentially closing the gap of space between them using this gravity wave emission.
Speaker 2:So kind of similar to the Black Hole Theory type chart, how they just take point A and point B and bring them.
Speaker 1:That's called the Rosenberg bridge. So or a wormhole, so most people know what a wormhole is is that you would take two points to close them together and you would create a little tube, if you like, or a wormhole, and you pop through and you could cover you know, like any infinite amount of space that you liked, as long as you had the technology to pinpoint the two places and bring them together.
Speaker 2:And, as far as I'm aware, like no one can explain gravity Like I know you're saying, they found this element that can manipulate like gravity, but apparently there's nobody that can physically, mathematically, be like this. Gravity is this. This is what it is, because, again, it's like. It's like. So we're on a ball, australia, right now there's probably an oil tanker that weighs 300 million billion tons stuck to the bottom, so it's strong enough to hold the boat there and there'll be a seagull flying above it. So strong enough to hold a boat to the fucking surface, but weak enough that a tiny little bird can fly above it. So it's just a bit bizarre how, if that can hold that because it's that strong, how can that tiny little weak bird beat it, but a ship can't?
Speaker 1:Well, the thing being is, is that the first of all, the birds not flying through? It's flying through a, essentially a fluid that's flying through air. Yeah, so it has resistance. Another thing is is the weight of the bird relative to the power of its wings? It can interact with that resistance. Where the oil tanker can do that is sort of governed by the laws of gravity.
Speaker 2:The laws of gravity. If the laws of gravity are in place, they're in place for everything. Do you know what I mean? So if a bird, whether it's motion or not, can go this way, surely the boat can also go that way.
Speaker 1:It's being drawn into the centre. So everything's being drawn into the centre. That's what the idea would be.
Speaker 2:gravity I looked into a few things and I'm just like there's far too many.
Speaker 1:What do you think it is? Because that's.
Speaker 2:Well, this is the thing. No one can explain it. As far as I'm aware, gravity is what's making a stick to the fucking ground. That's as far as I'm aware. But then you look at the science of it and no one can actually actively explain how we're on the fucking ground, they just. Gravity is just this word that was invented to explain how we're no fucking floating.
Speaker 1:Isaac Newton was the guy that worked out what gravity was when the apple fell from the train and landed on his head. That was where it all stemmed from.
Speaker 2:He came up with a word after a head injury.
Speaker 1:I mean not spectacular, but an apple wasn't like he could have came up with something better than that. Maybe I could have said that's that though.
Speaker 2:He was now fighting defending camps. He was sitting under a tree pondering how to make himself fucking rich.
Speaker 1:I wonder what the deal was back then. You know you're sitting there going, the king needs me to sort of go and fight a word, and you know I'll come up and say that An apple fell in my head. Eureka Seems pretty outrageous. He asked me.
Speaker 2:It must have been easy to be a clever comeback in the day again, before folk figures shit out. You could just come up with anything. You didn't need to prove it. You know what I mean. You could just say it.
Speaker 1:What does he make of the ever seen Da Vinci stuff where he's written backwards into things and he's written geometric codes into, like his designs and drawings?
Speaker 2:He vaguely yes and no, like he's because he had some. Really did he not have shit about flight and all sorts of weird and wonderful sketches in that?
Speaker 1:He did the sketches of like the first idea of a sort of like a gyroscopic flight machine, which we would call a helicopter.
Speaker 1:So you know, he was way, way, way ahead of his time, Way, way ahead of his time. That was another thing that came up about the Dark Knight satellite. The thing that came up was that they reckoned that Nikolai Tesla was getting information radio wave transmissions from the satellite, and that was how he had obtained such fantastical information, because he claimed that he could tune into the Akashic record. The Akashic record is all the knowledge of everything that's ever been, all stored in the, you know the Akashic ether, and he was able to access it. How cool would that be. And apparently they think that it was from this Black Knight satellite. So that was where he got all these sort of.
Speaker 1:Once you understand that the universe is, you know, electromagnetic in nature and we perceive it in material, then you'll understand what the universe actually is when you start to look at everything as energy, frequency and vibration. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So things like the you know the pyramids and some of these you know monoliths and these huge, huge stones that are just beyond, beyond sort of comprehension. I was looking at the Mashu Peaches. So you know, have you seen the pictures of Mashu Peaches?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I'd love to go.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm up for it. People want to go.
Speaker 2:Game lad.
Speaker 1:They've got. They've said that Mashu Peaches got stones at the bottom which was the original building material, and it shows you that there's been three different builders at three different points in time. And the stones are huge at the bottom and they're also built with a slight incline on them and they were there to make it earthquake proof so that they couldn't be shaken out of place. And the design of the stones was that that stone could only fit in that place, so they weren't sort of universal stone shapes but they were cut specifically to fit into that area. And then you can see each builder's attempted to the next generation of builder, the next civilization that's came to build pre-incant times.
Speaker 1:The Incas had built the stones, but they didn't have the technology to cut them into the shapes. They were much smaller than the original ones. They're fascinating to look at.
Speaker 2:One of my mates has been a what'd they say? So it was fucking awesome.
Speaker 1:Imagine what the energy's like there. We're wild. We just did to see that for yourself like to have eyes on. Is that the thing with the? You know, in this day and age it's easy to look at pictures, it's easy to debunk this. It can be that Going like your eyes on something.
Speaker 2:Well, this is like, well, even like with you with the fuck, when I say I wanted to start boxing off them on nose. You see the pictures for the top. I want that in my head, I want that in my fucking eyes. That picture is meant. I want to see that shit with my own eyes Can be in places like you said Machu Picchu and fucking fucked. I can't even hang at the top of my head right now, but they're places like even that PR one in Madeira. Just I want to fucking see that unbelievable fucking experience. And, like you say, places like that have actually like historical significance. I think it would be fucking mint, yeah, Especially if you were able to do it in a way where it wasn't like Disneyland.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Ken, and it's all these things I don't know if you can book Machu Picchu, but do you know what I mean? Like just can't go up at three fucking o'clock in the morning when Nekha and Elsa's there. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine what like talking about your nose? One experience that was.
Speaker 2:That was a hoot mate. How good fun was that Wild wild.
Speaker 1:That was the three worlds.
Speaker 2:No, it was, it wasn't like it was. Yeah, we had our three different dimensions on that. Fucking hell, that was great. I was saying to Charlie. I was like, hey, when we're walking up we're like we've overdressed, and then we were adequately dressed. Yeah, and turn to that At the start, fucking like I think it's not going to be too bad. And then you come out of that bit and you're like, oh fuck, it was when you started to see we'd left from the car park.
Speaker 1:We'd left from the car park. We climbed up to the first trail.
Speaker 2:First, 1000 feet and it was like we were cooking.
Speaker 1:I mean, I was like I had to take my jacket off. I'm like I am absolutely roasting. Aye, we got to the first bit and it wasn't until we started to we got over the first sort of elevation, we could feel the wind and then you could start to see the slush patches of ice and patches of snow. We signs. These things were changing.
Speaker 2:And then the trail vanished, it was gone.
Speaker 1:It was just sort of it was like, literally it was the heart hill of mountains, because you just like, what was there is totally different and this bit's a new. You've entered a new world.
Speaker 2:Well, like you were saying when the wind went on the hill, and you're just like, we've done three levels. It's like a computer game. Level one calm, easy breeze, slight drizzle. Level two ice and wind. Level three hill onslaught, minus 15, 54 mile an hour winds, no path.
Speaker 1:So I remember, I remember looking up at you and Dean, and I was thinking, man, I'm game for it, I'm up for it. But I was looking and I thought, do you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if I didn't, because it was treacherous, I mean wild, because there was no clear path up. It was solid ice, like I said.
Speaker 2:I've always wondered how do you can't get lost on a hill? You're going up and down, and it wasn't to that point where I'm like, at this point, when the fog had set in, you could walk in any direction. You didn't. You've no point of reference to that given point. You're just in a cloud, with no like. We came that way.
Speaker 1:And it's like you see some of these like things where people have been caught in like a ridge, like we were up at the top of the ridge and walking along the ridge line and it's snowing.
Speaker 2:We didn't know if that was snow.
Speaker 1:We could, that could have broke away at any point. Like you know, you see some of these videos and it's like they've literally went and put their you know pole and the entire edge has just fell away. It's so easy because it looks like solid ground.
Speaker 2:I was telling my mate earlier because he popped in the shop, brought me a coffee and he's done Ben Loamand, but during decent weather. So I was like, right, so the path comes up there. We couldn't see that bit, so we've gone straight up there. When you get to the top of there, it is just a sheer drop off the other side which we didn't know. And then we seen guys through the fucking mist and we were about 30 feet above the path and had to go back down again. But like you say and I was at the time my glasses off, I had no visibit, I couldn't fucking see. I had to just focus on your orange stripes because I'm just like we're at the top. There's certain death here. We don't know if it's rock or if it's fucking snow. These guys are fucking miles down. It's like right glasses are full of the orange stripes.
Speaker 1:The funny thing was I reckon we actually had a better time of it because the path that we took were slightly sheltered for the wind, because it was full force on that edge. And we came round and went up the side. So we're still getting battered by it. It was like the path that you'd have took. You'd have just been completely exposed.
Speaker 1:You were just getting fucked it was that bad that I remember pulling my hood because I was like my face is getting absolutely thrashed, with 50 mile an hour wind, with sleep, hitting into you like mini paintball bullets. I'm like, wow, and you just had to pull your hood over. That's where you're maybe not got your full peripheral vision. You just sit in there on the next step.
Speaker 2:You're like a horse with blinkers on. You don't even care what's happening.
Speaker 1:So I was like, like we say, it was like we packed crampons. See, at the bottom, see if somebody said to you you need crampons, but away you go, go to your club, draw a chance. And then at the top we're like, oh, we need to get the crampons out. It was that much shit, ice.
Speaker 2:But even like, at one point obviously you were ahead but Dean slipped on the way back down and luckily he was a wee bit over and his arse caught the lip of the path. But if he'd missed that, there's nothing for at least a thousand feet, just a hell in rocks. That's why I was like, right, you go in the middle and then at least, if anything happens, I can potentially try to grab you. Worst case scenario I sketch you. He done well.
Speaker 2:He done well, really well he basically became a fucking skier on the way down. He was like a fucking mountain goat.
Speaker 1:He was the mountain he saves. He could be better than any Premier League goalkeeper. It was more the case of I don't know if he was making it. He was making his way down, or it was control descent, or he was just literally had no grip and it was chaos.
Speaker 2:He was just keeping it in a straight line. He done well, though. He done really well Fucking. The crampons are actually shit hot. That's the first time I've ever had to use them and they're really good. Shite on snow, great on ice.
Speaker 1:Especially at soft, though it's different if it's hard packed.
Speaker 2:Closer to ice, but it's slash or anything that's pointless.
Speaker 1:But on ice they're different.
Speaker 2:But see that experience, because that was my first Monroe, you know actual a qualified mountain. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And see other than the view from the top in the summer. I think it's based off that. I would say it's more fun in the winter because the summer the walk-up's just going to be hot and relatively easy and you get the nice view. I don't think it's overly, I don't think there'll be, unless some of the ones we've got to climb. You have to actually do some mountaineering and it's a bit sketchy. I think it's just a walk, if you get me.
Speaker 1:You get some of the steeper ones, like, for instance, we were talking about doing the cobbler. The cobbler's a bit like that. The cobbler is one that looks. You look at it and you go that can't be possible to climb that without ropes. And you get up and you're scrabbling up it and you get to different bits and when you look at people that are going up it, they just look like ants that are climbing up the side of a hill. You go, it's not possible. It just visually looks extremely difficult. I mean, you get there, it's actually quite good fun. There's bits that you need to sort of scrabble and, you know, shuffle your way up and just sort of find wee bits and make your way up. But the three sisters is good, like if you want to do one, it's a bit of a challenge and like see working your way down a ridgeline, that's pretty cool and you really probably want to do that in the summertime where you know the grounds a good chance of being there when you take the step, it's actually the fucking.
Speaker 2:it's actually the fucking.
Speaker 1:It's like poking with your stick, like you're going to stay there.
Speaker 2:So is that what you do on Narrake Alps, and you go along the ridgelines to each one? Narrake Alps, you it's because one of the boy, the boy, the money that we nipped in the day, because for two of them, kind of the two, is actually Monroe, you've kind of got to go back on yourself and then, because the path's almost the same to, and then you've, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:You go through it. It's just like you get to the Glen and in the Glen you've got one on one side, one on the other side, one straight through. So it's like the path through the Glen is a path. You can go to one, the other or the one straight ahead, so you could go one to the left, up and down and up the other one and then back and round and down so you could make your way around it. But a lot of people just walk and go up one back down and make their way from the middle path.
Speaker 1:But there is there is but there is route so you can go, just depend on how. Like how you feel there's an old used to be an old waterworks up there, so there's actually an old waterworks path.
Speaker 2:that's you know like people don't, they don't use it.
Speaker 1:It's a bit more adventurous because the first sort of 500 meters is just switch back through a forest and the last time we'd been doing that that was. That was like the same. We were going through the woods and had stripped to literally T shirts and then see what was like at the top it was. It was more snowy but less windy, so you were literally up to her knees and snow track.
Speaker 2:What have you done with the photos you sent me? And you're fucking like waist deep.
Speaker 1:I literally covered and for couldn't see a thing, couldn't find the path, there was nothing visible because it was just completely covered in snow. He came back to the valley and he was like this is not bad. And then you went on the woods and it was like never been.
Speaker 1:It was like the woods, there was not a stitch of snow, it's fucking good fun Like and it's amazing just to think like in a few hours, like three, four hours, you can go and experience the three different worlds on one climb and it's here, but even the weather, and then how it was at the summit Nothing. Nothing. What about with the break? What about the divine?
Speaker 2:That's what I mean the divine break in the wind. We're getting hammered and we're at the point now where we have no cover. We are fully, 100 percent, 360 degrees exposed, and we had nothing. No wind.
Speaker 1:Silence. We were getting battered all the way up the last push, the last part of the descent we're getting how many? So much so we've walked around the other side to try and get a little bit of shelter. Where I say a little bit of shelter, I'm using that in the loosest possible terms. We still battered.
Speaker 2:We remember dilded it down to 49 miles instead of 54.
Speaker 1:And we get to the top, and we're making our way along and we get to the peak Nothing.
Speaker 2:Just all stopped, just all stopped, and in the minute we got 12 feet from the summit, I started again. Yeah, just opened up.
Speaker 1:It was like the divine mountain gods were like the well done lads.
Speaker 2:We've got five minutes.
Speaker 1:You can open up your peanuts now and get a wee drink of juice before. It was fucking surreal it was good, mega, looking forward to doing more.
Speaker 2:Fucking right. That's why because I wasn't sure. So the cobbler isn't a Monroe, but, as you say, it's iconic, it's one that everyone knows.
Speaker 1:If you'd done the cobbler. You could go and do the cobbler If you were going to let the shorty pass for not meeting the 3000 feet. You'd give the cobbler a pass because it's close enough and it's a cracker. You looked at it and you go. It would be like you know you get the minimum height requirements, see, if you were going to let somebody slide in. That would be the one you'd be like when you go lad open your tiptoes Like I said well, I found out.
Speaker 2:actually my father has done all of them Every Monroe. He's deep new, but he did. I used to cycle to the hill camp, climate camp, cycle back.
Speaker 1:Because there's a lot of them are like some of them, you can only access by canoe and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:But why the fuck would you cycle to? He stayed in Edinburgh, cycled to the hills, right, why? Some of them are a fucking distance, but that was a cracker apparently. I said to him I was trying to box for them. I know she's like, oh, he'd done that. She said I had cycle. I'm like what the fucking psychopath?
Speaker 1:Have you looked up any of them you fancy doing Is?
Speaker 2:there any of them?
Speaker 1:really start to jump out to you.
Speaker 2:No. So there's a couple I can't. I was like what are the 10? Easiest if you like? And I'll start with them, because some of them you can do a couple like like like you can do two in a day typing and there's two lots that are the same name, but one's at Loch Leiva and one's another no, not Loch Leiva and Loch Ernor. Anyway, there's two that have same name but they're different fucking places, but they are the same fucking name Envolic. I can't even mind, but they've got this. There's two mountains of identical names but where they are is different and I don't really understand that and I don't know if they're maybe part of the same range or whatever the chat is anyway.
Speaker 2:So I was like start boxing name off, because some of them, obviously, as you go up the numbers, there is a bit of climbing involved. So I'm going to have to develop as we get up the fucking into the 200s, if you like, and actually have to, Because some of them you can't just walk up and some of them are challenging and even doing bed nervous would be mint. But there's, there's that other way to bed nervous, Can that fucking sketchy. It's like almost a ridgeline to the top, Like that would be mint, but I'm not going to attempt that now. Do you know what I mean? Like, maybe do another two before a fucking.
Speaker 1:I'd be signed You're right Probably. But you figure out as you go. You figure out as you go. I remember doing bed nervous early in the morning. You know I was up as I'll be back be back for you can get the breakfast on and Mac dropped me off. I'm like just drop me off early doors and I'm going to hike up myself. And was up. There was like a monscape at the top but really really like unusual amount of just boulders at the top. So this is a crazy, crazy peak.
Speaker 2:It's at the top 10 easiest, I thought I phoned down.
Speaker 1:It's just long.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like it's a, but there was people you just knew when you see people and just massively, massively underestimated it. I was people I was seeing like it was warm, like the sun was out as I was coming down and I had to take sun cream up with me, yeah, and I was like man, I can feel this heat. So usual things. If it's long, you're going to be going to have a be done. The steel falls, so across the steel rope bridge, the steel falls I'm sure Harry Potter was filmed there. So it was the steel falls that we did with the kids when they've done Ben Nevis, when we're up there, all cool stuff. And I remember coming back down from Ben Nevis and I thought, right, I'm touching, go for water here, and I've got three liter camel pack to like 750 mil bottles of water and I'm thinking I've used quite a lot of water because it was warm. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I've got a 330 mil water, a pair of Nike and Max. I've got proper sort of Adidas Terex. I can trainers on a backpack. All the kits sun cream, first aid kit and I'm like have you got this? No, and it's getting warmer as they go and I'm like you're going to fry up here.
Speaker 2:It's like they can't slow on the way down for Ben Lohmann, Can the, the, the TikTok hikers that have just decided to get their other gear on the way up? They go, but they go get a fright Like that kind of a suit jacket on trousers.
Speaker 1:Where do you go in lad, the guy that looked like he was going for he was Italian, he was foreign, mind I thought he was French.
Speaker 2:He looked French. He wasn't local.
Speaker 1:He looked like he was going for a you know a cafe reservation.
Speaker 2:Looking for a coffee house. Fucking can't squat lost.
Speaker 1:He's on the wrong mountain.
Speaker 2:He's going to get a fright like they dress shoes are not going to be adequate.
Speaker 1:I remember seeing a Japanese lassie on chronic, how it was particularly. It was must have rained really heavily and it was muddy like slippy muddy and this lassie's like white dress, tights, white trainers, like the sort of designer trainers Japanese, I'm like you have no idea what you're getting into.
Speaker 2:They're going to be fucked in.
Speaker 1:Like it was slightly tempting to go up and see how far she would get, because I'm like they talk about out your, out your depth. I don't know if they I don't know what they think.
Speaker 2:They just thought we've heard this is fun, let's go do that. They don't think too much.
Speaker 1:We've seen the video of that guy sliding down that muddy path and he's the same. He's got the you know like he goes for a hike and he's pals are video laughing at him and he's trying to get grip. He's like, he's like, he's like, he's just like, he's just like, he's just like he's just like he's just like he's just like he's just like I would just slide all the way there You're in now.
Speaker 2:You're muddy.
Speaker 1:You're going to the car, it's like yeah, I think you sort of like your results baked in at this point. I don't think there's anything you need to. You're not going to salvage this.
Speaker 2:One of my client in the day he was, he'd him and his one of his mates done Ben Nevis and there's a. He was saying there's a bit with a stream or something or a waterfall or something along those lines and they would kind of made a cut. So they're filling up their bottles and hanging a drink at the stream and all this shit and like he's like honestly, about 20 meters up there was a dead deer. It had been clearly not fresh. There was like they hair on it. The hangs off, fucking burst like a fucking blown up balloon. And he's like great, we're going to be ill. They were fine, but it's not what you're wanting. Like.
Speaker 1:I mean it's one of those situations. I mean I've been. I got caught on the three sisters but very little water and it was a rough day out. It was rough and you get to the point where your kidneys are.
Speaker 2:You didn't plan on doing them all that day.
Speaker 1:So I thought we were going up to the hidden valley and back down two hours. It was like I've scooshed this.
Speaker 2:Wait, is the hidden valley? Is that where that is?
Speaker 1:I didn't know that it's along from the meeting of the three, three waterfalls those are the three pools, that's in Balahulish and you, there's a car park there and you go along and then you can park. It's like five minutes away and you go to the.
Speaker 2:Because I was looking at one other day. Do you go doing like metal stairs at some point or some?
Speaker 1:I was a bridge. I had metal stairs and bridge.
Speaker 2:I assume that was up. Fuck, I thought it was way up north.
Speaker 1:You remember, you know if you're going to Glencoe, just past Glencoe. So past Glencoe you're on the 82. And then there's the you remember where Jimmy Savile's house was, the white one they got trashed after they all came out. Well, it's on the right. And then you go through the 82 and it's just there.
Speaker 2:Where was that again? You better tell me if this is one of these ones where I've no like the fucking video. I have not. What a clown. There's only going to be one hidden valley. Well, there might be a few, but one that's called the hidden valley.
Speaker 1:You remember this called the hidden valley or the lost valley. You can always get it mixed up. That's the hidden valley.
Speaker 2:Hidden valley, scotland. I'm sure the cunt was like fucking your your boots doing these stairs and whatever.
Speaker 1:I go over a wee bridge, like there's a wee bridge over the river that you go past like a cot, like a wee cottage that's in there, there's a wee house that's in the bottom of the Glen, so all very scenic. And then you get up there and I'm like how did they so? The story goes that the McDonald's clan had stole all the cattle and they'd had the cattle up in the valley, in the valley. That's hidden valley, it's sort of secret valley. That was there and you go there and you go. This is incredible because it looks like you've climbed all the way up and it looks like the bottom of another Glen.
Speaker 2:And now this kind of be this one Cause like I've seen I've just seen that you go over the wee wooden bridge and then you go up the stone stairs and that Now these kinds had to go down actual built metal stairs, kind of like the ones Kunso would put in. And I'm sure he said it was the hidden valley and I should have fucking looked up and it was miles away.
Speaker 1:You need to remember like you've got. You come through the car park down. You come through the car park down, you get to the bottom, then you go over the bridge and then you climb up the other side. So he's maybe caught it on the downside, but it was the way that I went, was you know, it was just like an S? S bend path. Hmm.
Speaker 2:This one called the lost valley as well, though, and that's up by Kenloch Leven. It's like in between Glencoe, it's just at the summit of Bidin Nambian.
Speaker 1:What's that one called?
Speaker 2:The Lost.
Speaker 1:Valley.
Speaker 2:I wonder if there is a hidden valley as well, hidden Valley, shortland? That's the Lost Valley. It's the one you're on up at Balahoulish. There's obviously just the same place then.
Speaker 1:You go up there and you need to scrabble. See if you go from the Lost Valley up to the First man Row, it's a scrabble. Then you go from there Ridgeline to the next one, then you go from that one Ridgeline to the next one, then you go down the Otherman Row. See if you do essentially a massive loop all the way back to the car park. You go up one side of the range, go along the Ridgelines, then you come down the other side of the range and actually you can do three of them, probably seven or eight hours. It's fine, absolutely fine, as long as you're prepared enough.
Speaker 1:In terms of fluids and things like that.
Speaker 2:I'll go with my new gear, big orange mic you could definitely do it.
Speaker 1:Ben Volick's a good one, a good challenging one.
Speaker 2:There's a few, I'll need to send you the list that I found. They were not bad.
Speaker 2:They weren't too far. They were all within two, two and a half hour range. We've got a wee hangbook up near Wick in the summer and Ben hopes up there. It's the most northerly one. I might try and box it off while I'm up there. It's nippy because it's two hours away from where we're staying, but I'm never going to be that close to it again. You need to get it off the list. I'm not going to be up there very often because the place where we're staying is up past Wick. The wee hangs look fucking mint. I was like that would do and then I was like I wonder what's in the area. So there's loads of hills but not all of them qualify and at the minute I think I'll focus on the ones that qualify. There's another one. It's a wee bit further. There's another one on the islands Sky. Obviously I bought the map where they all are. I should have to consult that, but I'm sure there is some that you've got a trek. You've got to get a boat to.
Speaker 1:I remember seeing ones that are good 20 odd K You'd need to walk.
Speaker 2:It's a shift.
Speaker 1:It's like a right hardcore day out.
Speaker 2:There's one I've seen a boy did on the interweb and it was fucking. It was mint. He said it's one of his favourite hills but that's a shift. It's up getting fucking at the top but after one side near some random sort of lock, and he says it's a mint one on the view for the top's dynamite, but it's a fucking. You can't really get too close to it in the motor. It's one of the ones you've just got to get as close as you can and fucking hump it. I didn't think there's anywhere near it either, kind of like town wise or kind of there's nice civilisation in the middle of fucking neighbour.
Speaker 1:That's a cool thing about. I remember seeing a guy that went up on and he'd got a clear night and got the northern lights. Ah, mint man, Imagine that.
Speaker 2:Well, that's a fucking shout, actually like.
Speaker 1:Over at camping.
Speaker 2:That'd be a shout like Maybe when the camp no one would fucking bump on the top of the hill, but definitely do a later hike in the day.
Speaker 1:Would you not camp?
Speaker 2:Nah, I know, if I'm only up there for three days with the misses in the wee man, I think she wouldn't have been too happy with a fucked off or anything.
Speaker 1:Sounds like a heart problem. You get to give them stuff to moan about. Keep moanin' at all.
Speaker 2:Ah, this is it, mate. Keep it interesting. How many have you done? Have you even checked?
Speaker 1:One, two. You've had them up More than 10? Nah, so maybe there or thereabouts.
Speaker 2:That's a cool thing to box off like Ah it'd be cool, Ken just done tick 282 smashed. Ah, it'd be a nice. I don't think there's many people that have actually done them all. There's probably more people that have done everests now than done all the Monroe's in Scotland.
Speaker 1:You think?
Speaker 2:so Fucking right easy.
Speaker 1:I remember seeing one where you had to get a can out of, Like there was a you needed to go cross I can't quite believe it, lads.
Speaker 2:Which would be even fucking cooler, ken, proper triathlon banter just to go and box off Monroe. Why good effort. There was a. You were sending the pictures everest to the queues at the summit. Wild Ken, I'm not queuing at 27,000 feet, sorry, but I'm fucking not.
Speaker 1:You ever looked into K2? K2 looks mint like K2's the hardest Fuckin' nah yeah, yeah, k2's the most deadly, and it was one of the hardest to conquer Same mountain range innit, still the Himalayas innit. They're all in the same sort of same sort of area. They're all in that kind of Himalayas sort of Asia, nepal's.
Speaker 2:That's my plan for my 40th. I've no interest in doing everest. I want to do the trek to base camp though.
Speaker 1:Where Base camp where?
Speaker 2:No, everest Base Camp. It's like 14 days it takes you to get there. For whatever you are Kind of up through the hills past all the monasteries to get blessed by the monks and all that shit. I want to do that bit. Get to base camp that was happening in Big Hill. See you later when you going.
Speaker 1:That's one of the most pussy things I've ever heard.
Speaker 2:I'm not cute, you make your fucking trek to the ultimate hill.
Speaker 1:And you go. I'll just gear you away from the weak.
Speaker 2:No, climbing that the weak. How much weak Queuing at 27,000 feet? That's cute, that's cute.
Speaker 1:Go up with the Sherpas. See, look, I'll help you do the ropes They've got Sherpas.
Speaker 2:They're more fucking you go up with the Sherpas.
Speaker 1:You know how they need to fix ropes they need to fix ropes, they're all hardcore.
Speaker 2:I fuck that. And even through the ice bottleneck you bit and that kind of rod. It's just. You don't wonder so many folk are dying now and there than ever. You're standing at minus 65 million Queuing.
Speaker 1:What would you rather do? Queue at 28,000 feet, or would you rather try and trek across Antarctica? What would you rather hear about? Is it calling on Breen Calling something? He's second name will come to me.
Speaker 2:So you try to reenact the endurance chat or something.
Speaker 1:He was the first guy to. It was him and another guy that were looking to be the first to trek across Antarctica. And he got Got 25,000 pounds for trying to do it. They couldn't even take the toilet. He had to bag them all up. He got permission to go across, trek across it. So it was from whatever point to whatever point.
Speaker 2:Well, we can have a shite.
Speaker 1:Can you leave a shite? Why? Because we wanted the need of the pristine, or the big tall Germans, the Admiral Burr's journal. We're going to come and get them the big Nordics. That was the thing. See, like the Nordics, the Nordics was one of the Canadian. The top Canadian minister for air defence, count, says look, we're in contact with the Galactic Federation. There's aliens here and live amongst us. And he talks about. One of them was the Nordics, tall Nordic handsome. You might know that you probably related to him.
Speaker 2:They're all here, they're all in my bloodlines.
Speaker 1:That must be it, that must be your. Like you're getting close at home. It's like you're. I'm going to admit, I'm going to say this to you straight, mikey. You know what a very good disguise.
Speaker 2:I don't, admit I don't. That's why I'm not a loud American mate, because I'm a Scottish real.
Speaker 1:The Galactic Federation's been like. Can you let our boy in just yet?
Speaker 2:He's got work to do. We've got to keep him up in his house for a while.
Speaker 1:He's got his big orange jumpsuit.
Speaker 2:We need to see him up in his house. He's ready. Fucking. Need to transmit some messages to the mothership.
Speaker 1:The name is the Nordics, were a, like a tall species that needed to be in cold environments. So they they relocated to the colder spots as the planet had changed and went through different sort of climate changes over the years. And that was, that was one of. I think. He said there was nine species, like there was nine types, and a lot of them are hybrid, so they'd been, you know, like they were alien, human sort of crossbreeds, which would explain a lot about a lot of people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure we've touched on that before kind of like they can't find the link from homo fucking erectus to homo sapien, or what are we? We're homo sapiens.
Speaker 1:We're homo sapiens. What Sapiens?
Speaker 2:sapiens.
Speaker 1:So we're homo sapiens sapiens.
Speaker 2:Plus one.
Speaker 1:So I mean, this is the thing about. There's so much. There's so much signs of like an ancient civilization and advanced civilization. It's glaringly obvious, it's almost to the point where you go there's there's like the story of it being told just as a fact.
Speaker 2:It would even be better if kind of people in charge was like we don't know, sorry, we're just talking, pash, because we don't fucking know, we can't answer it, and it's easier to tell you a lie than explain shit we can't fucking explain.
Speaker 1:Well, you ever follow George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell, so Jeremy Corbell is a.
Speaker 2:I know the name George.
Speaker 1:Knapp was the guy who was the reporter who reported them.
Speaker 1:Bob was our team is with like KSL news or something in Las Vegas. Great voice, great sound, great tone. He's got that sort of anchor man newscaster Welcome to the. You know he's got that whole bit security. He's coming across really well. But he got into with I think it was David Lear and his family designed the Learjet billionaires. He said to he says I've got a guy that's from S4. I think you should speak to him and he was blowing the lid on what was going on down there and it was George Knapp was the guy who was like this must be nonsense, this must be a hoax. And then got right into the rabbit hole and went on this whole sort of exploration of oh shit, so there is something.
Speaker 2:So talking the day, who was the British guy that was buying up all the Russian secrets? Ken, on our alien desk.
Speaker 1:He was talking about it. So the men in black are mysterious people that are in government organizations.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, but mine the guy Nick Pope.
Speaker 1:That was it.
Speaker 2:I said I said, I said I've got Pope right, but I think I said fucking Ben, or something.
Speaker 1:Nick.
Speaker 2:Pope Because he's like, oh, he's the such and such guy. I'm like, nah, I'm no, he's not a fucking I, nick Pope. I need to try to remember that.
Speaker 1:So he was a dude that tells you about all the information that they were getting after the fall of the Soviet Union. So, like 91, soviet Union fell and there was lots of Russian secrets for sale because all these people were out of a job and needing money. It was like, well, we've, you know, got a filing cabinet you might be interested in you know how much.
Speaker 1:Line them up and they were like bring them over, we are buying what you're selling. So there was all that bit from Nick. He was another one that talks about the different sort of you know species and galactic federation. Mattias de Stefano talks about it as well. He remembers all his past lives.
Speaker 1:So, again another one where I, you know, initially I'm like this guy's, this guy's been buzzing glue. And then the more that you go into it and he explains, like literally every single, like the depth he's knowledge, you go, man, it's more believable that you can remember all your past lives. And is that you've sort of just concocted?
Speaker 2:this whole story because he's pretty.
Speaker 1:He's pretty good at it. He's very, very, very articulate. The weird one was that he'd met a guy like he had a friend now that was his husband like 10,000 years ago.
Speaker 2:I think this guy believes in the whole reincarnation banner, then that he's coming back in all this chat Other than like if he remembers past lives and shit, he must be down the whole Buddhist chat.
Speaker 1:Well, the Buddhist chat was about what they are interpretation of what happens to the soul.
Speaker 2:So the soul, like you know, believe in reincarnation.
Speaker 1:So that bit, the reincarnation, is the Buddhist version of what is like a description of what happens where you, you know you return to life after life.
Speaker 2:The organism has the same sort of thing, your soul, if you like so say for argument's sake. Your soul is higher being that comes down and takes a body, and you come back as many times as you need to to complete whatever tasks you've been set if you like and you will keep coming back until you tick all the boxes you have to tick and then you can go to fucking soul land 3000 or whatever the fucking chat is. Fuck knows.
Speaker 1:Well, the purpose that, if I remember again, I need to refresh my memory but the purpose of the economy we taste. The step noises that consciousness is the creator of everything, so everything comes from consciousness. When consciousness became aware of itself, it divided into two. Divided into two and now consciousness was aware of itself, and then divided into three and four. The third is the third dimension, the fourth is fourth dimension, and so on. And then there's beings that exist in the fifth, the sixth, the seventh, like archangels, you know, entities without physical form. There's more energetical beings, and then you get to the eighth dimension, which is the Kashuk records, which is consciousness is now experienced. Every single alternative, every single possibility, and it's stored within this record. Every timeline and every life in every possible carnation of itself has been experienced and is stored there. And this is what Nikolai Tesla says it was linked into.
Speaker 1:And then the ninth dimension is divinity, where consciousness now knows all possible timelines and it's found divinity. And that's where the three, six, nine comes from, because you can only access the ninth dimension through the third and the sixth, and then you get to the ninth and then it starts all over again, and this is what, this is what they reckon is going on.
Speaker 2:So all these interactions with different, you know, beings, these sort of interactions with spirits, interaction where, like higher power, it's all the different levels of the dimensions, have you came across, just when you said dimensions there about us being in a different dimension, a parallel universe to where we were, have you came across this chat? And things are different that you don't realize that you remember them one way, but they're now. No, that's how it was. And you're like I could have fucking and just every hand brand in on packets, cartoon characters, how they looked, things like that, and it's all fucking different. And I was looking through some of it and I'm like, no, that was 100% how that can't look back in the fucking 90s but according to our data with me. So either we're all fucking wrong or something is.
Speaker 1:Well, they reckon that there's the multiverse theories. Is that every single possible? There's? A thousand universities and there's a thousand that there's just infinite possibilities happening everywhere in the whole.
Speaker 2:We've apparently switched.
Speaker 1:How would we switch?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Apparently, the point is when the particle collider thing happened.
Speaker 1:Apparently, that's a point where That'd be a point with it.
Speaker 2:Well, that's what they said. That's what one of these guys theories is when? Because at what point could have something potentially have happened?
Speaker 1:We're getting into the realms of the God particle. When they started looking for that, that was. That was the issue with the story in Angels and Demons. So Angels and Demons was the sequel to the.
Speaker 2:Da Vinci code. So in Angels and Demons there was the.
Speaker 1:I can't really remember that one very well, so they were calling it the God particle, which was you would create anti matter.
Speaker 2:Well, I can remember Da Vinci, and then I remember the other one where he was running a boot. I think I was in Fernel, I can't really remember.
Speaker 1:Inferno was a bit of a weird foretell.
Speaker 2:Anything that was Was that the fucking, the priest, that felt his death at the end.
Speaker 1:I was.
Speaker 2:I can't, for whatever reason, I can't log in.
Speaker 1:I've seen it, I've been running around the Vatican looking at all the ancient sort of hidden symbolisms. I wouldn't let them in. It was a Swiss guard, so the Swiss guard were there to protect the secrets.
Speaker 2:Was in Fernel, basically that as well.
Speaker 1:Inferno was the uh the virus. The virus through the blood, that it was all blood. So it's the end and it was all about wiping out half of humanity, because you know, after the need to start again. So at 50% everyone. Once the killers, or you've got fucking Avengers, fucking Dan Brown and all his chat and the weird bit is is it's not even killing everybody, it's like a half deal. You know the very sort of clear that it's only half.
Speaker 2:You can't. Yeah, it's all right. Yeah, it's like what half do?
Speaker 1:you pick.
Speaker 2:You don't just random? These are targeted, these ones, it was targeted because obviously in Avengers it's just there and it's just random who goes and who doesn't.
Speaker 1:I didn't clock that with the insurance inferno.
Speaker 2:There was a sequence I was like uh, these are the ones that will be the ones that live on.
Speaker 1:That was. It's back to the whole like uh, you know, all the genocidal traits have happened in history. You go like how, how many times does it need to? It seems to be a recurring theme and it's like even like, um, like that would create like the great floods. So the great floods were around the sort of 10,200 BC and the great floods that they've written about in every religion and it's all the stories of this great flood. But it seems that people were saved and selected to restart humanity. But everyone has sort of forgot what had happened before. And we are looking at in Quebec Le Tepe, the ancient pyramids.
Speaker 2:We're looking at.
Speaker 1:Machu Picchu and we go. We don't know, but all the signs are there and Graham Hancock writes about this in his book the Fingerprints of the Gods.
Speaker 2:He's really good.
Speaker 1:But he's like look here's, here's all the things that don't make sense. These, these don't, this doesn't fit, and there's no explanation for this and what we understand to be to be, uh, scientifically based. So, just because we can't explain it, we're seeing the evidence here. There must be something else that's happened. And then he's, like you know, criticised for being a pseudo scientist. He's clearly stood the test of time, but the, his fingerprints of the Gods books, just incredible. And you're seeing sort of all the uh, you know, like Randall Carlson, master builder, Incredible detail, incredible knowledge, incredible research. Is it Rob? Rob Lachat? I?
Speaker 2:like the two of them together. They're really good really fucking good together.
Speaker 1:Really good on Joe Rogan to tell them. Yeah, yeah, that was the hot podcast, and Joe told his own against two guys Like he's really really, really good.
Speaker 2:He's a clever, fucking man Joe.
Speaker 1:And you look at him, you just think he's just going to be like a fun.
Speaker 2:Mate, I've flicked on. I was, I was, I was getting these fucking rerun channels. I was just flicking through and there he is in the nineties on Fear Factor. We're here and I'm like can? I went back and like what's that fucking? I went on Google and I'm like it fucking is Joe. That must have been a low point. Host in Fear Factor.
Speaker 1:That's how you got kicked off His fear factor. He was good at pool. I think he was like hustling with a bit of pool. He was trying to get any comedy in that land and the gig at Fear Factor. This is all like post year, pre UFC sort of stuff and he's like the sort of it looks.
Speaker 2:I don't know if he looked like kind of Italian sort of Fonzie In that sort of like catalog, sort of good look model image he done well, though, because we were me and me and Charlie, I watched it for a bit and obviously all the contestants in the nineties, all the women are in bikinis and he's just like this, Okay. And then he said don't look down, don't look down, Don't just eye contact. Every once in a while I'm like good effort, Joe.
Speaker 2:You've been telling cameras on you lad. You look ahead, we don't need any shit here, eye contact only. And then you'll see him turn away and they'll be a quick, a quick. What's happening as he fucking comes off camera? Well, yes, joe.
Speaker 1:Good lad, good lad, he's still still in the game, but I was. I think he'd done something else, which was what else did he do?
Speaker 2:I can't even remember any of that. I mean seeing Fear Factor back in the day too, but I never have a. Well, obviously I wouldn't have really known what Joe Rogan was back in the day, because he wasn't really anybody at that point overly.
Speaker 1:I mean it's amazing to think how many things he's been interested in and look at the look at the depth of people that he speaks to in his podcast.
Speaker 2:All the knowledge you'll pick up even without knowing it just up to the people who's in the room with, but Jamie's good, I want a Jamie.
Speaker 1:Jamie's really good, jamie is really good. Jamie's like quicker than chat GBT.
Speaker 2:He's on the case like quick. He's fucking there, he's quick. I, like you, came across the what's it called Bobby Lee and Hengie's podcast.
Speaker 1:Theo Vaughn.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, theo's been on it, but no, it's the ginger guy and Bobby Lee.
Speaker 1:Ginger guy.
Speaker 2:Is it Bad Friends or something like that?
Speaker 1:Bill Barr. No no no, no, no, no, guy from Boston.
Speaker 2:No, this, this fucking Ginger guy. Aye, you fucking. You must have seen it, Harry Sharif.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no. Harry Sharif, he's bald, he's got a shit head.
Speaker 2:No, these guys are. These guys are fucking hilarious. Never seen these two. I don't fucking you. Have a look at the whole thing. Check my brilliant, and even just the shit they get away with as well, just some of the chat they're talking about. And they go places where it says, brilliant, brilliant, can. Racially on the edge of points, but not offensively, just just calling us fucking.
Speaker 1:That is what it is typing out like it's strange because I think back to some of the movies that we were that we would have seen like 15, 20 years ago, and like stuff they're talking about now. We were like I, it's my bother. People are so offended now.
Speaker 2:Well, we recently watched, like when I was drawn I'll chuck some on the background and we went back to like only Fools and Horses and that and see some of the chat and that and what they're calling folk and can go into the Indian restaurant and what they would refer to the waiters and you like. Imagine they did that on the telly.
Speaker 1:Now, fucking hell I mean there is, there is some of it. It's definitely like that's probably good. We tidied that up as a culture Like culturally but it's. You know probably quite good that that was dialed out. See some of the human, like what we've lost, the some of see the cultural humor, like the differences in culture. That was funny, right. The. I know these seven, I go there's no malice, it's just funny. Yeah, like good hearty fun, nobody's the nobody's the brunt of it, no more than any other joke, but it's funny.
Speaker 1:That's good and it's like that's the thing we like. Who's the the black dude? I like Airee Spears. He's really funny, airee Spears, seeing him in black comedian, oh no sure, funny, like just, and it's all. Certainly all that. Cultural racial differences, just no racialism like the like color, it's more racialism like preferences and things they do the way he does it.
Speaker 2:He just nails it I think a lot of the Indian comedians, the British ones whose whose parents are first generation, but he's grew up here so he can see the cultural differences between his white friends and how he was brought up and they. I like they guys. They're fucking brilliant.
Speaker 1:That's the thing it's like. That's good humor.
Speaker 2:It's great.
Speaker 1:It's fantastic If anything that brings, that brings like a different sort of racial groups. Tighter, because you can enjoy humor and that, like you're having you're fighting common ground.
Speaker 2:No one's being a dick, no one's, you know, getting derogatory. It's just good old fun.
Speaker 1:Who's the what's the black comedian, the guy with the bald head, Dave Chappelle? Yeah.
Speaker 2:I like his partner with the LBGT community and he just goes ham on them, just takes it utter cunt out of them. But he's getting away with it Okay, and I think they can see it for what it is and it's just having a joke. He's not being, he's touched, he's getting he's got, he's got with the line, but he doesn't quite jump over it. He stays on the right side. I wouldn't say political correctness, because none of it's politically correct, but it's, it's funny and he's not being nailed to the wall for it, which is good.
Speaker 1:But I mean politics. I mean it's ironic that we use words like politically correct when you look at politicians. I mean if we, if there's anything we shouldn't be like, it should be, politicians. You see Tucker Carlson selling out arenas in Canada just now, like Justin Trudeau is in big trouble, like in Tucker Carlson's calling him out and he's went and toured around Canada and places are packed to see. Carl, I don't know how it's now going to make the market, if it was been there a while, though, ain't it, aye, but he's.
Speaker 1:He's been parachuted in like he's. He's a, he's a, he's a wef puppet. He was part of the. The world economic forms young leaders program.
Speaker 2:They've been pretty quiet recently. I'd be fair. I've not had a lot of weft chat for a while. To be fair, they're like. Well, I'll try to let it blow over.
Speaker 1:Like boys we've.
Speaker 2:Well, I went to. Some guys will just shut up PR campaign.
Speaker 1:We're going to keep it on the lowdown for a while because we don't want to raise our raise our heads, and this is the thing is. Like you look at all the. Have you ever went on the world economic form and then looked at the members and looked at how many political party members, but some.
Speaker 2:But someone did on tiktok.
Speaker 1:Right. So I think, nicklas Sturgeon, siddiq Khan, rishi Sunak.
Speaker 1:Boris Johnson Yusuf all paid up, members of the world economic form, all like you know partner, yeah, but Justin Trudeau and you literally look at the world governments and there's a video, clow Schwab going. You know, yes, we like to infiltrate all the cabinet offices and he's like right, so let me get us right. You're bragging that you set up a program to essentially indoctrinate young leaders into your way thinking so that they could be your agents inside government cabinets. That's what you're saying and you're actually boasting about it.
Speaker 2:Right, you're telling everybody and you're going to do anything about it. Everyone's in their pocket.
Speaker 1:You go and look at the French and you look at the farmers. Farmers are going to do something about it.
Speaker 2:Germans are piping up to this started apparently someone said Scottish farmers are kicking off somewhere, but I couldn't if the footage. I've seen it just it could be driver farmers just going to work. They were just trying. They weren't like in France. They're clearly, you know, setting tire walls on fire and spraying shit everywhere and blocking up buildings. And I seen them drive a fucking tractor into McDonald's. I dump in manure and hay bales in the middle of McDonald's and all shitting like that and the McDonald's boys open the automatic doors and come on, there you go.
Speaker 1:People are. People have had a rough look at the blade runners down in London with the ULES. They're like you can take this and you need to stop this. It's a case of the voices are rising and the people are. People are making a stand because they don't want any part of it.
Speaker 2:I don't think we'll be able to hear.
Speaker 1:I just don't think we will. People won't rise.
Speaker 2:They need something like that, no one is going to put their head in the Tromblock. Fact Nobody.
Speaker 1:I think they need something big enough to get behind, because if you look at it, it's a bit like boiling the frog the temperature's cooled down, so the frogs are going to jump out the water and take something to raise that temperature again, and then you're going to see who's going to jump out and who's going to say any British people trying to make waves half of them.
Speaker 2:They end up leaving the country. They're on Spain or somewhere else. They don't hang about because our government go after them, and anytime they set foot back here, the government go after them. So I don't hate anybody. And now they've passed that law as well. If you are one of these people that try and incite an uprising or a movement or a revolution or whatever you want to call it, they can lock them up for 14 years without question. Same with journalism is fucked. Here too, you do anything that makes the government or the crown look bad. They can lock you up for 14 years no questions asked. So no one's going to do it. Every Cunscot Burns are a family to hankyboots, so they can go there. We're fried and I don't know where you stand on the theory of all these UN soldiers getting moved into the country. All our hotels are food.
Speaker 1:This is the active way you see Military's males in basket.
Speaker 2:Government have bought the Kern hotel. You look at that right. Yeah, kern hotels full to the brim of military's males.
Speaker 1:Where are they from?
Speaker 2:Not here. I don't know specifically where Middle Earth countries and presuming, but they're all here, military's males, no women, no kids, no elderly, everywhere, fucking everywhere. And they're all being prepaid 175 quid a week on the debit cards. What are them? They do what I don't know, nobody knows.
Speaker 1:Does anybody watch them?
Speaker 2:I don't know. Well, I know it's the council bought the Kern hotel and they filled it with these guys. And there's all over the UK it's the same, because our woofie was on the radio long ago and she runs Airbnb's just B&B's, bread and breakfast, and they're all booked out food to the brim. And it's just these Middle Eastern not Middle East, can't just, you know, like Syrian, turkish, north Africans, moroccans, just all these men, they women, they children, but they're off running for wars. Why are military's men here? Where are your women and children and your elderly? It's just men. Our country is food.
Speaker 1:I've seen a lot of it in Ireland. They were kicking up our first debate as well.
Speaker 2:And actually there's a cruise ship docked at the Clyde next to the motorway. It's been there for eight. That same thing, foo Foo to the fucking brim. Why what's going on? And apparently they're all UN soldiers, allegedly, but whether that's true or not, it's just some kind of blitting. That out is another thing. Obviously, going by some of the plans, whether they're true or not, who knows agenda 30 or that? You know you can't rely on our military and police to get on board with some of the plans they've got laid out going forward.
Speaker 1:I mean, look at what they've done. I mean people are quick and forgetting the lockdowns, are quick and forgetting the wink. Wink. We didn't force vaccinations. The fuck you did. Yeah, you fucking did. And then look at how they're ignoring all the excess deaths. Look at how they're ignoring.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's natural causes. So it goes to the heart attack Long.
Speaker 1:COVID's causing heart attacks. That's no chance. Look at how, like government having parties in the face of it, them having exemptions for masks and vaccinations, and you go.
Speaker 2:this stinks to the high heavens Seeing a lot of the coroners that are finding these mad like 12 foot long blood clots and foken all this shit Fucking snakes in your blood on that.
Speaker 1:So incredible the stuff that they found, and then it's just been ignored.
Speaker 2:They're constantly being told to shut their fucking faces.
Speaker 1:And that's the thing is like you know, you look at leaving, look at the censorship, you see the Twitter files. Like some, Matt Tabby and Elon released the Twitter files basically, complete collusion from the government.
Speaker 2:They've had them up in.
Speaker 1:America. They've had them at congressional hearings, where they're like right, where did you go to medical school? Medical school, so what credentials do you go? I will give you the right to censor a Harvard train doctor. That's an expertise field, but it's our policies. She's like no, no, no. I'm asking you a question.
Speaker 2:Answer it.
Speaker 1:Right, how is it? How do you know better than them? Like in your sense? I mean, you're stopping the first amendment, right?
Speaker 2:Because what was this, plus fucking him that got the Nobel Prize for developing the NRA technology? He was shut up and he's actively like.
Speaker 1:this is not the chat Robert Milan, this is not what it was created for.
Speaker 2:This is not a vaccine. This is not Like if you had the right code, you could basically make a human turn into a fucking horse.
Speaker 1:If you had the right genetic code. He was really chuffed and he got. You know he had an adverse reaction to his vaccination. Hi, it was chuffed the way he got in. He's like you know, I developed the technologies. He's got nine patents to his name for designing the technologies. Like, yeah, I'm like really, you know, I played a part in, you know, in the you know the good guy club.
Speaker 2:And then he turned around and started telling them what to take out.
Speaker 1:Well, it's because he seemed what it did.
Speaker 2:Oh, right, okay.
Speaker 1:And he had first hand experience. He was like this is, this is really really bad.
Speaker 2:And then Mike Eden can, the guy that helped develop it for Pfizer. He resigned and started telling every country no do not fucking take it, and we just ignored him. So you've got the guy who's invented the tech and the guy that's made it, both of them telling you to stay the fuck away for it, and they got shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1:Look.
Speaker 2:Montage was a Nobel Prize laureate for he died the day before he was meant to give evidence against it, and court.
Speaker 1:Funny, that funny. Yeah, well, he developed, he's a Canadian lad any French. French, yeah, and he developed the synthesized the first test or isolated HIV HIV virus, won a Nobel Prize for it, and so he was the foremost expert in viruses and virology.
Speaker 2:He is, the guy, is the fucking boy is the guy and he was.
Speaker 1:he went and says this has been created in the lab. This is 100% been created.
Speaker 2:He was to give evidence in court. He went fucking oopsies.
Speaker 1:Yeah seems to be the way of it. So you can't imagine like a and this is what I mean like you, look at all these cameras. We want 15 minute cities, we want smart meters, we want, we want to know where you're doing Smart doors, smart tellies, smart fucking software, your convenience we want to be able to like.
Speaker 1:We want to be able to track every single thing that you use on the device using Wi-Fi. The one that cracked me up was cutting down the somewhere in Oxford. They were cutting down they're not like 150 year old tree line street to put in 5G towers, and they were. They were. And he says that they were going to cut down the trees to to put 5G towers in and they wanted to install like a bus lane for emissions, like for a green, like I can't remember the word they used. They were. They were going to put a bus lane through here and the 5G towers on the basis of it would be environmentally friendly. You're going to cut down the trees.
Speaker 1:That actually purify the sound take the CO2 and turn it in oxygen through photosynthesis.
Speaker 2:That's where you're, that's where you're suggesting we're going to use all these big diggers and diesel guzzling machines and it'll take 100 years before this green project becomes green because its carbon footprint is fucking massive. Idiots, man.
Speaker 1:Madness.
Speaker 2:This is another thing. Even the 15 minute city thing that you just said, the amount of folks that don't think that's coming. Well, it's not true. It's happening now. They're trying to contest it in Causton, England, oh, but it won't come up to Scotland. The Ulysses own the first stage.
Speaker 1:Yep, go and check Bath Right, and it's like the Ulysses own is the first, like you say, it's the first stage.
Speaker 1:So what we're going to do, right, so you're going to. You've decided you own the air, right. All your emissions scandals, all your nonsense in parliament, all the tricks that you've played, all the wars that you fought for your you know, your elite bankers, all the, all the bully tactics that you use all over the world. What you've decided is you want to come here and you want to charge people for using the air. And then what are you doing with that money? To clean the air?
Speaker 2:Zero Like what are you?
Speaker 1:buying like. Explain to me what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Right, that's it.
Speaker 1:Right, and if it's a case where we're going to play the game that there's democracy, we're going to play the game that there's accountability, then you're in public office and the people that have lent you their authority should be able to ask, but you're not answering any questions, just the same as you're not answering any questions about the low traffic, low traffic towns, ltns, low traffic neighbourhoods. So low traffic neighbourhoods, the UL, is why you're putting all these people just in boatloads into hotels. Why are you funding sort of 1.9 billion pound contracts to house migrants and it's social housing stock, then claiming there's a shortage of homes, like something doesn't add up. Something doesn't add up and you go. Well, people don't want to know.
Speaker 2:They don't know. I mean there's something to be said to a buddy in the sand Absolutely Like I would rather not fucking know, but I know now. So it is what it is Just got to sit on the way on it happening because it's fucking, you can do it, stop at.
Speaker 1:Well, probably out with the scope of this episode to discuss what could be done. There's certainly things that could be done, but whether people would, it won't stage people would consider them as an option.
Speaker 2:I think we need to go quite far into the when people are going to get to the point where they want to do the extreme, it's too fucking late. Games are bogey Trains. Left the station. It's on route.
Speaker 1:Reventions better than cure Big time. Speaking of which, did you know that there was a UFO sighting at Edinburgh Airport in 2019?
Speaker 2:I did not, I did not know that.
Speaker 1:Multiple airline pilots had reported that they had seen fast moving unidentified objects in the sky.
Speaker 2:Normally, the first force was the Air Force though They'd phone the Ministry of Defence.
Speaker 1:the Ministry of Defence contacted them. They said the Civil Aviation Authority contacted the Ministry of Defence and their answer was more than telling. They said there is no threat to aviation, Didn't they say there wasn't anything there? They said there's no threat. They said there's no threat. There's just extremely high moving objects that are visible to airline pilots in the area that they're landing and taking off. And your response is we've investigated it and there's no threat. Explain that to me, boss. Talk me through that one.
Speaker 2:What does that mean?
Speaker 1:So I don't know if they were making the way to the body bridge. They were via Edinburgh, but the multiple airline pilots had reported this.
Speaker 2:Let's say that one in America the weird pill hang and then you can hear the record into the Navy and the Air Force talking to each other, and neither one of them was like it's no us, it's no us. So who the fuck is it then? I don't know. We've been monitoring it. It's a tic-tac.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, would you know that they were there for days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was fucking and it just fucked off.
Speaker 1:Commander David Travers, the guy that came out and essentially he was the squadron leader. I was a commander for the mission and they were doing a training mission and it was simulated off the coast and they were. The air traffic control had known that this sort of object was coming from 80,000 feet to sea level and almost instantaneously incomprehensible speed and they're making maneuvers that weren't possible. But they were tracking on radar and they'd seen it over the course of a few days. But the aircraft pilots weren't briefed on what was going on. So Commander Fraver and the squadron headed out. They're giving a waypoint to head to this location. Air traffic control come on and they're like we've got a real world situation, can you proceed to here?
Speaker 1:So they'd went around, spotted this sort of tic-tac shaped object over in just the bottom of the surface making the shape of a cross and then they were banking to come and make a circle round to see what it was. So he's got a real good look eyes on. So one of the planes is up high watching as he's making the maneuver. So he's got eyes on looking at this below and he says it looked like it was interacting with something just under the surface of the water and it was making a cross shape and incomprehensible speed. He says moving like a ping pong ball, rattling around and a cross shape. He says complete visibility for 50 miles like crystal clear. He says this thing lifted up and then shot out of visibility. He says it was redassed air traffic control, like if you go down radar and it was at 60 miles away and within seconds it was 60 miles away at their next waypoint.
Speaker 2:That's frightening though.
Speaker 1:And he was like this thing, is it showing a technology that the US are testing? I think commander Fravor was in an FAA team super hornet, so the creme de la creme was speed machine. He wasn't an assessor, he wasn't in a toy plane and he's like this thing left us standing still and he's came out and he's like we don't have anything like that that I know of. But what was uncanny is that it knew Fravor's next waypoint and was there like that. And he was like oh and then when they get back he briefed men in black show up like Harsh, harsh.
Speaker 1:There's a couple of spooks on the, the boat, right, we need to keep this contained, you know. And then the guys are putting on the men in black movies in the room, taking the piss a little bit, and he's like this is, that was, that was what we'd seen, and it's apparently like really, really frequent, but hushed like, hushed up.
Speaker 2:It's just because the public will shite themselves.
Speaker 1:What do you think they're at with that now?
Speaker 2:I don't know, like you say, like they kind of obviously they say Hollywood's like to prepare people for what's coming on all that chat and I think the more and more as time goes on, the less shocked I think people would be and I get eventually come to a point where it comes out and folk are just like yeah okay.
Speaker 1:We'd see the like. Yeah, I seen an old Bob Lazar video. His old videos are good and they're resurfacing. So Bob Lazar's doing a thing. He's like I don't know what the. I don't know what the brief is. He says but I don't know if this was real. He says, but the brief that I was read was it was to do with why religion was created and that we are containers.
Speaker 1:We are containers and we contain the souls. And religion is there so that the containers follow a set of rules to look after what's in the containers, which is the souls, and it's all connected with religion as a mechanism of protecting it.
Speaker 2:But I was not saying how do you damage a soul? What does you know? What do they need to control so we don't damage it? That's like what do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:That's a good question.
Speaker 2:Like what is religion trying to teach you to do?
Speaker 1:Well, most religions are grounded in a principle that you are given a set of rules that you live by that are for the greater good.
Speaker 2:like you, but there's only one religion that gives you rules. All the rest is guidelines.
Speaker 1:Well, whatever way you want to interpret it, the idea is the kind that they face is the only one that's like commandments do this, so you're going to fucking hell.
Speaker 2:Can every other one's just kind of like oh, this is a guide to you know, be a sound-cant, whereas Chris Jarny's only one that's like I've got some ropey history, like you know, burning the witches and the science books and chasing the scientists.
Speaker 1:They've got a checker passed.
Speaker 2:You see which pickings. Back In the Congo they're fucking started witch picking again.
Speaker 1:Which witch picking?
Speaker 2:So basically back in the day. So in Scotland, in the UK, scotland I think it finished in England before Scotland. Scotland was late to the party ending it. But basically, a witch picker, some of the work for the church. And I could just say to you, you're a witch and I have to prove you're a witch by either drowning you or burning you and if you survive I'm right. If you die, oh sorry, I was wrong. So there was no, there was never a confirmed witch, ever. But if the witch picker picked you out, they got your estate. There was no poor witches, they were only wealthy witches. And the witch picker got your estate. And you know the family was also prosecuted for harbouring a witch and so on and so forward. So witch pickers the Amberkeetham witch picker was one of the richest in Scotland Because they just it's just business.
Speaker 2:So now in the Congo what's happening is the priests are kind of cutting a boot and they'll point at you or your kids. But your child, he's the reason why you're poor and this and that, and he's the reason all your bad things. So then the family pays the church to purify the child, whether it be torture, rape, beatings, pouring hot palm oil down their throats and then, when they're finished, they'll just dump the child. The family don't want him back. They're just left on the streets. But the church? There's now hundreds of kids that are witches and humans.
Speaker 2:Catholic church, as far as I'm aware.
Speaker 2:let me look this up before I go accusing an entire branch of fucking not doing anything wrong, which there was a massive documentary on it a few years back. Witch picking in the Congo. So, ken, how, like you, go down a high street here and it's like hairdresser, hairdresser, hairdresser in the Congo is like church, church, church, church. It's such good business. Children accused of witchcraft may be killed, although often abandoned by their parents and live on the streets. Because child witchcraft is deeply rooted in the Congolese. I can actually identify which religion it is. I know which pick in here was the church. Yeah, the straw angel to cries with fear as she undergoes an exorcism to purge her from the evil that the Catholic priest believes works within them. So what is the Catholic church?
Speaker 1:Some shady games filled Vatican boys.
Speaker 2:So there are over 50,000 child witches abandoned on the streets in the capital of Kinshasa or whatever Wilder Wild stuff. Yeah, good business. You know the property. The church is in the conglomance. Yeah that's the thing Big business in the conglomance.
Speaker 1:I think they contain my soul. I think I'll keep it out of that area.
Speaker 2:It's wild, eh it's nuts. Absolutely nuts Religion, lad.
Speaker 1:Crazy.
Speaker 2:So what are they protecting? They're protecting He-Haw.
Speaker 1:This is the thing where the Mateus de Stefano said back to the dimensions. He's like the hermetic. Principles explain the laws of the universe and one of the principles is duality. So you can't get good without bad.
Speaker 2:That's the balance.
Speaker 1:And that's what Mateus says is that the architects which are in I think they're either the architects are either in the sixth or the seventh dimension and they are there working with, like good and bad works with each other to create the architecture. Because the law is that you need the polarity. That's why you need the evil and the bad. Yeah exactly, and this is part of the duality of our experience that needs to be there, which is just bonkers, absolutely bonkers stuff. It's wild.
Speaker 2:So you're not saying that. Evil seems to be a lot worse than the good, though, especially in today's fucking society.
Speaker 1:It seems to be getting a lot more attention. I think there's one of those things, that's true.
Speaker 2:Actually, it might not be necessarily be worse. You just see it more now, more than ever.
Speaker 1:It's getting the limelight and it's like anything that people like. The reason that good news isn't selling papers is because that doesn't grab attention.
Speaker 2:It's like you know there's a fuck.
Speaker 1:Evil is the stuff that grabs attention, so or shock or drama, or surprise or that sort of stuff, but it doesn't seem to do too well in the good front. But it's the whole thing. Like you know, hard times make strong men, strong men make good times, good times make weak men, weak men make hard times. It goes back the way around. So what about the cycle we in? So I think we're in weak men make hard times.
Speaker 2:If you look at a lot of the people in charge, they are not. They're not strong or good men.
Speaker 1:They're not the founding fathers of anything. They're, you know they're weak. Weak men pillaging crony capitalism. You know exploitation. You know hedonistic, materialistic sort of you know looking after themselves, looking after their cronies. There's not a time that I think we're in. The weak men make tough times and then what comes, that is, you get. You know, tough times make strong men. That's the next part of it. I would say that we're probably in the deep innings of the weak men, because you'll just look at the attitude that people now so weak, so very like now, so instant gratification, so very, you know.
Speaker 1:You know victimhood, victimhood and self entitlement you know, that they should have everything for nothing, like it's just the expectations people have. It's wild, it's all completely bent out of shape.
Speaker 2:Fucking broken lad.
Speaker 1:Big team. Is there any other ones you want to cover off?
Speaker 2:No, no one of the funny theories of why I got bounced was America was our chats on the podcast. Maybe you've said something on one of your podcasts. They got you like fuck off. Biden is not paying attention to what I'm saying on a podcast.
Speaker 1:Biden didn't know what he had for dinner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, biden's is off his fucking jump. But someone said that it's like maybe it's something you've said and like it's definitely not. Did you think?
Speaker 1:the NSA is like a subscriber to the podcast.
Speaker 2:It would be fucking cool if they were like well, big shout out to the NSA. Top three NSA, cia, fbi, all two in it.
Speaker 1:Guys are sitting there down in Virginia like we'll put the boys on. We fucked the rugged in here.
Speaker 2:He's no chance.
Speaker 1:He's on the same list as Snowden.
Speaker 2:Fucking they're like. No, it's definitely not that it could be.
Speaker 1:People jump to all sorts of conclusions, don't they? I?
Speaker 2:was like we've not said anything. That bad is getting me banned from the fucking states. No fucking danger.
Speaker 1:Crazy man. Absolutely, that was hilarious. I was one that I seen like talking about comments. I was one about like we must have been talking about the pyramids and some guy said that it's racist to say that the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids.
Speaker 2:It's like if anything that would be.
Speaker 1:Stealing culture and I'm like, fuck off, you're just, you're going to get me an Egyptian right, you're going to get me, you can have anyone in Egypt right. And like, go and get them to build me a 120th version, and I want chicken bones and copper tools and ramps and wooden logs. Go, get them, give me peace. And is that self entitlement where you're like mate. You haven't even looked into this.
Speaker 2:No, you're just being a fucking clown. I got some guy trying to hit me with cultural appropriation on my fucking Instagram. For what? Because I'm a white guy doing Japanese tattoos. So I'm being racially. I'm like what? Surely, if anything, it's cultural appreciation, you know, because I love their art to the point where I am focusing solely on that. Madness, this is culture. Fuck off, mate.
Speaker 1:I don't remember when Adele went down to Is it in the singer Adele went down to like the Notting Hill Carnival and she got like her hair braided she got some flak for that like. It was when the whole like that's cultural misappropriation, it's fuck off Cultural appreciation, go get it. Listen, you're in fucking Notting Hill in London. You've came here and there's a carnival here and someone goes and celebrates the carnival being inclusive, being involved, like celebrating everything about the carnival, and this is the bullshit that you want to.
Speaker 2:She had a fucking problem with it. She wouldn't have went Bingo. Okay, and what I mean. This is about fucking people I'm missing. It's just fucking stupidity on the highest level.
Speaker 1:And it's like common sense is left, Like what the fuck are you talking? About you will jump on any bandwagon.
Speaker 2:They shut that desk, mate. You can't get common sense anymore, it's common sense off.
Speaker 1:the you got paid off. It's not handing out anymore. Common sense goes P60.
Speaker 2:They just doubled up on the fucking.
Speaker 1:A P45.
Speaker 2:They doubled up on the fucking entitlement desk. Instead, we're getting busy over here.
Speaker 1:It's entitlement and inclusivity at all costs. We will push this because you must have a fucking smart meter.
Speaker 2:Fucking.
Speaker 1:But Klaus has got. Klaus's IT system is waiting on the reading from your smart meter.
Speaker 2:Now more than ever, I would say every cunt's kind of alright with every cunt else. On a whole, Like you know, no one gives a shit anymore about. I mean, there are people out there that are still a wee bit far behind and they have issues with race and fucking sexual preferences and shit, but for the most part no one cares. Every cunt's alright with every cunt else. And there's still just these fucking people trying to cause fucking problems.
Speaker 1:There's a small group of them as well.
Speaker 2:I know it's so small. I don't care what you look like, who you are, where you put your bits or whatever. I can care less. I don't care. I'm fine with you as long as you're not a prick. If you're a prick that supersedes any of those other things that you categorise to, You're good with me. As long as you're not a cunt, You're a cunt. You're a cunt. Sorry, that's not to do with who you are, how you look or where you put your fucking bits. You're just a cunt.
Speaker 1:A cunt can take on any appearance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're shapeshifters and it's fucking it just annoys me now. There's so many fucking lines in the sand that you can't step over, and I'm like why the fuck are they there?
Speaker 1:Divide and conquer.
Speaker 2:And I understand why they do it. I just don't think there's a fucking need for that.
Speaker 1:The people that are being divided don't understand that they're being conquered.
Speaker 2:No, this is the problem, this is where it's like right.
Speaker 1:Take a step back, have a look at the methodology, have a look at the technique. Tell me that you're not done it. You've been. You have been literally infiltrated in your mind to divide yourself into everybody else and you've got like the majority of us, like all colours, all shapes, all sizes, and like we're actually pretty good, like we'll probably find some common ground, we'll find some humor and cultural differences. We'll have a laugh. We'll talk about like do you know such and such and like the defense is doing and we're all good.
Speaker 2:We're all right, it's a little bit different, but it's just the extreme mentality of the fucking stupid that ruins it for every country.
Speaker 1:And they're a small number, but they have the loudest voice. The loudest voice, the greatest sense of entitlement and the biggest fucking chip in their shoulder with victimhood, and it's them that chipped their own shoulder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is it, it's they. You've fucking made, you've put your own fence up.
Speaker 1:You ever see that video where the last saying the guy's, like you know, to ask her?
Speaker 2:it was like there are many videos like this.
Speaker 1:She's like you know, I just think that it's, you know it's quite hateful and he's like you know, who do you think hates you? She's like, well, it's, you know, probably mostly for myself, exactly, you know that's not a good place to start, it's not a good place to check out, because you know it's probably from within.
Speaker 2:I don't say I don't. I just don't understand why people think other people give a fuck about them.
Speaker 3:I mean like I don't care about them. But do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:Like we don't. I don't give a fuck about what you think.
Speaker 1:I give a fuck about how many people like it's like it's like that thing with you know, through your 20s, you think that everybody's looking at you and everybody's going to care what you're doing. And then when you get to 30, you're like I don't really care how I look. And then you get to 40 and you realise nobody was fucking looking at you. You begin with like everybody's getting on with their own life. Everybody's like worrying about their own stuff.
Speaker 2:Have you ever seen some kind of sick? I want to start at the gym, but I'm wondering if you're looking at me. Nick can't go be looking at you. I'll tell you that right now Nobody is going to give a fuck at all. If you're in the gym and you are out of shape and you're a fucking slob Cool, I've got more respect for you being in the gym than not being in the gym. But Nick can't look at you. Nick can't judge in you. We all started somewhere in the gym. Can we all have day one when we're a fucking shit show?
Speaker 1:You're going to get more judgement sitting at McDonald's filling your face. You're going to get a bit of respect and a bit of kudos. You're going to get a nod that you've clearly counted it.
Speaker 2:You've clearly made an effort. You don't need me to say anything. You know where you're at. You've made the first step.
Speaker 1:You're in the heaviest weight in this entire gym is that front door?
Speaker 2:That's it, and you've lifted it up.
Speaker 1:Good on you, keep coming, keep coming to you. You're half your former self, like shed that shit off of you. That's it and good on you getting here.
Speaker 2:Remove the doovy, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1:You'll be cool, you'll be good to go.
Speaker 2:You're going to be golden, exactly. But I just don't understand that mentality. But everyone has been there. Do you know what I mean? Even fucking at some points. I've been there. And you just think why, like you say, you get the points in your life where, like I'm at a point now, probably early, I don't care at all.
Speaker 1:How freeing is it? You feel relieved.
Speaker 2:I don't even know when the point was. I just noticed one day that I really didn't have a fuck at all. I was writing about it on TikTok. They're doing a band, a band of life twice how do you get a band of life? I don't know, but it's the thing ladder.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:Just got to watch what you say Apparently. I thought TikTok was game, really. But by three times Twice for running my mouth about fucking TikTok, and then one time for TikTok and while driving, tiktok cares about your safety. Instagram doesn't Instagram. Let me fucking run my mouth.
Speaker 1:How does it know that you're doing all that shit Pass?
Speaker 2:I don't know if your GPS location moving at a certain speed, they must not. No, if you're with a passenger, that's true. Actually, Don't know, Don't know. But I was fucking driving.
Speaker 2:I was writing about, kind of like these cunts that are existing and they're making millions, just existing in front of a camera. They're not doing anything. They're not tattooing or doing makeup or cooking or whatever you can watch cunts doing. They're doing nothing. They're just sitting there mouth breathers and they're fucking jammies. They've been in for three days not doing anything and cunts are fucking cunts, love it and they're paying them and they're throwing money and they're getting them gifts. And I heard these little retards now do they do gift battles, which is like they sit. They both do it.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they join a stream and whoever gets the most money wins the battle. Or add in a ken, eh, and it just fucking annoys the crap. Like how is this a thing? Why, first off, do you have the time to do this? You obviously have nothing going on in your life. People are watching you, engaging with you and paying you. So who are these fucking people sitting throwing money at these fucking people? And I was just going off about that and I just violation, violation, violation, cut off, fuck it. Band for 10 minutes, fine 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:it is Back in.
Speaker 2:Off. Same thing again violation. I was like fuck off TikTok. And she's like you're much, you're going to get banned. I'm like, oh, I got banned off TikTok. What a fucking nightmare. Ooh.
Speaker 1:What are they going to do If they've all learned a lesson, that they start censoring all that? This community guideline Pish is like look, it's getting to the point of a joke that what you're talking about is hateful speech. You're using all these words like I was even being hateful.
Speaker 2:They're saying it's hateful and it's like yeah, but who decides that?
Speaker 1:It's like imagine that you're too harsh. There's a bit that's too harsh and the other end is you're too soft. I think that their policing is getting.
Speaker 2:It's going too soft.
Speaker 1:It's too soft.
Speaker 2:I was just straight down the middle, or. I want to know why. Why is this a thing? Why do people do this? I don't understand. Someone just explained this to me as to why. And if they're making money, cool, I suppose that is a reason. But they started doing this prior to realizing they can make money, so why were they doing it in the first place? I don't understand why.
Speaker 1:What are they doing?
Speaker 2:Nothing.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? They're doing nothing.
Speaker 2:They're doing nothing, Literally. There's one guy who's on almost every night. He doesn't even fucking talk, he's just sitting there listening to tunes, just doing stupid things on the camera. He's not even engaging with anybody and the cunts just sets this fucking live goal and cunts are just throwing money at this fucking guy.
Speaker 1:How many people are. Do you know how many people are? Hey?
Speaker 2:sum of it is thousands. What Fucking thousands? How? In one night it was like eight and a half thousand cunts just watching this guy just sitting there. He's a fat cunt, not physically gifted overly, and I'm not fat shame, and I'm just saying.
Speaker 1:Fucking fat shame. It's just a big deal. Shame the fuck out of him.
Speaker 2:And he's obviously got a bit of a coin. He's Montclair'd up, he's got Gad Girod, he's got a fucking mind.
Speaker 1:I wonder if he's getting people who throw money on him why he's getting a fucking.
Speaker 2:he's getting an absolute fortune, but he's draped in gold in that too, but he's not doing anything. He's not engaging with anybody, he's not typing back, he's just sitting listening to tunes. He looks smashed, he looks like he's on the bevy of Sahama, but I'm like, how are you meeting coin lad? You're doing nothing and thousands of people are watching you do nothing, but I can't hear that he's doing that.
Speaker 1:The Tik Toker obviously look to protect. They're not wanting their money makers to get shot down, so maybe you're criticising their money makers like now we are.
Speaker 2:I had to look at the parameters where monetising your account and doing these life things and that, and if you've got over a certain amount and a certain percentage of watcher, you're talking like 17 grand a month type monetary value. Wise, these people are making coin by doing nothing. That's bonkers. I can't get my head round it, lad, and I don't understand, for argument's sake, the reason they're doing it is because they're making 17 grand a month sound. Why are people watching it and funding nothing? Like I get these guys that do shit, ken. Like, for argument's sake, if I'm tattooing, I'm live streaming it, there's something to watch, you're doing a tattoo, people are interested in the process, and so on and so forward and even down to these people that are doing random shit. Like a guy had a Porsche and if you send them whatever the gift is of the monetary value, he'll write your handle on his Porsche and he's covered his Porsche 911 with fucking 100,000 names. And like Ken, cool, whatever, it's a bit hangy. But if someone's like, oh yeah, my name on his Porsche, ken, whatever, cool, even that I can maybe get, and the guy's a guy who'll stand there with four weights and each weight's got a different gift, they send them the gift. He's got to lift the weight, ken. All right, ken, whatever. It's a bit fucking basic, but you're doing something. It's silly.
Speaker 2:But these people are making money like that. And you look at the people out in Thailand, bali type neck of the woods, and they've set up these rooms. So I don't know how it works, but the rooms connected to the account and these folk can send the gifts and it does something in the room. So these guys are just trying to sleep. One one will shoot BB guns at him. One gift will make the bed vibrate. One turns all the lights on, turns music on really loud. There's a bucket of water that'll fall at Ken. It's just just.
Speaker 1:You can pay to ruin this guy's sleep. This is madness.
Speaker 2:There's ones where they're sleeping outside and they'll fucking pay them and the lights will come on and wake them up and he's got to do like a stupid dance and folk are just throwing money at him making him do these daft dances on camera. Ken, some of it's quite dehumanising, if you like. A bit humiliating in that. But if you're in one of these sort of lower income countries and there's no work maybe and you can do this and make fucking good bank, then fair play, I would do it too. Do you know what I mean? But I just don't get the people on the other side of the phone like monetising it. I didn't understand, I didn't get it.
Speaker 1:I can't hear. I have no answer for you at all. That's bonkers, so that's basically that.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure that's what I was ranting about on tech talking. I need to, I need to go.
Speaker 1:I need to get my eyes on this. So if you see one of them, let me see it and I'll check it out, because I can't get my head around that.
Speaker 2:No, no, they're fucking. There's a bit. I can find one right now, the only one I can find right this second is throwing money at this guy to just just to do push-ups. So they're throwing money and then he'll start doing push-ups.
Speaker 1:Thanks for the last notes. We've got a guy on tech talk. There's 1,100 people watching.
Speaker 2:But the ones I've got. They'll have four weights lined up and they'll just and each weight in front of it will have a different gift amount, and they just have to either curl it or lift it up or whatever they do, and the cancer is. It's just wild lad. They're more prominent at the weekends because that's been Mace Folker.
Speaker 1:Sitting on their ass just watching this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, throwing money at the guy. He's in great shape, boy looks fucking on point like but, the world does mental Mico, Isn't it? It's broken chap, it's fucking wild. I mean fair play to these folk capitalizing on it and making coin ads. It's this side of the screen I don't get. We've ran out of dry land. I'll have to use that camera for your intro and outro.
Speaker 1:So it's an X-Men?
Speaker 2:no, I don't know, we'll need to figure that one out.
Speaker 1:We'll get it done.
Speaker 2:Dunt. I'll say it really once the Arak out sounds decent.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's good, it's a good time for that. Is he good to help with that? I'm so sure. How long has it been like that? Dale's day has not gone good. Your memory card ran out of space and your mrs bike's been knocked. It's not a good evening for Dale.
Speaker 2:And they say it comes in three lads. So I'll say it, I'll just go hop on that. You see it comes in threes. I didn't realise that had happened when we were on the one with Chris. He's got to a point where Chris and he's stuck in, like he's obviously doing it, explaining to him, and then he's just been frozen and I'm like what is going on here?
Speaker 1:He was good, like he was a good, good guest.
Speaker 2:That Chris's sound. I'm looking forward to the Belfast show that they're putting on.
Speaker 1:You going over.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I fucking know I'm going over and I saw him be there. That'll be shit hot. That'll be good fun. You will get a wrapped up, then I go for a tap. I'm going to his 40.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his 40. I know why, with the time flies.
Speaker 2:Time flies when you're talking. Absolute drawslad.
Speaker 1:Majestic 12. You heard them in Majestic 12?.
Speaker 2:Why? Yes, but I don't know why.
Speaker 1:So Majestic 12 was set up after World War II to cover up the connection with extraterrestrials. So they had access to information that was to be safeguarded. And the Majestic 12 was a group. The 12 high profile government and military personnel had access to it. So they had Majestic 12 access which was above top secret. Bob Lazar says that his clearance was I think he called it Q clearance. It was 38 levels above the you know he'd majestic level clearance and it was 38 levels above his highest civilian clearance you could get. So Majestic 12 was the 12 that were picked as the the safeguards of the information.
Speaker 2:You're a cool position to be at now.
Speaker 1:You know you can't even go home to the boozer Like you talk shit to the boys We've been up to. How was your work today? I print or jammed and all that you know. Fucking. I would cast a fucking UFO on the side of the mountain. They said that the boys to go and get it mangled to fuck element 115 all over the place with a gravity wave that fucked up the fucking pond up there, fucked it right up. You know they talk about the lunar pool in the you know the lunar gravitational pool, have the tides. You want to take a sport model up with a fucking element 115 and three wave, a gravity markers. Oh my God, what a fucking mess. It was the most one-sided water. Fight the universe has ever seen.
Speaker 1:Fucking water everywhere, fish. There was fucking octopus on the military roof. Really fucked up. That's a bird. You can't even go within 500 feet of water with these fuckers. It just makes an extreme mess.
Speaker 2:They meant that I just know it would be great Said it before. It would become a point in time where, if I have the questions ever asked, being kind to say yes, like if you wanted to know. Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I think it'd be like the Matrix with the red pill, blue pill.
Speaker 2:I don't think we're in a matrix. I don't think we're in a computer genre.
Speaker 1:No, what I mean is you know you get the option in the Matrix. Do you want the ignorance as bliss? You go back. It was just a dream blue pill, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Or, as a red pill, go right down the fucking rabbit hole in your. That'd be sound, See where it goes.
Speaker 2:I don't need a half tab. I'm already fucking halfway down it anyway.
Speaker 1:You've got your to one. You might, as fuck it, let's just go. Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 2:It'd be interesting like fuck, okay, Sound.
Speaker 1:Wow, what if it ends up like fear and loathing?
Speaker 2:That'd be awful, that'd be horrendous. I'd be a wreck.
Speaker 1:I'd knock I don't know like name. Wonder you just put off, as you are Fucking right lads, holy shit balls.
Speaker 2:I came across that I think I was fucking 13 or 14 when I first watched all that and read the book and shit, it's broken, huh.
Speaker 1:Big time. Yeah, I'm up to the back, where he gets to like he's had he was trying to escape Vegas and he gets word that he's to stay there and he's to move to another hotel and he's just bumped the hotel bill.
Speaker 2:In the movie. That's hilarious because he's sitting doing Adrina Chrome just with like a towel over his head, like a fucking doublet, and they've kidnapped this fucking lassie and fucking Benicio del Toro playing the lawyer. They're just it's fucking. That's brilliant and that's seen like Fucking wild.
Speaker 1:I remember going out. I remember going out and listening to it while I was walking the dogs, and put it on audible. Oh, who's narrating it? It's a just a Quite a good narrator. He's got a good voice. It's a fucking ah deadly mate, but I mean, I was like I had to turn it on. I'm like Mikey, I was like man, I'm not fucking ready for this tonight. Like, ah, you need to be. You need to be ready for this story, this thing's fucking wild.
Speaker 2:Visually when they do it in the movie. Visually it's really good as well. Okay, when he goes in the lobby and the carpet's coming alive and every cunt's a fucking reptile, and it's fucking. Visually it's really good how they've done it as well. It's fucking funny. Johnny Depp is brilliant. Really good, really good.
Speaker 1:He. I'm seeing his interview with uh Donnie's chat with about Hunter S Thompson. Him and Hunter S Thompson were tight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, they were. When he the. Is that the interview where he says how he met him in the bar in Colorado?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't remember if he I think he says he was introduced to him and uh, like they've hit it off, and he went. Hunter S Thompson had shown him how to read and he was like the conductor shown him how to read the book. So he was one of the greatest sort of uh bits of advice that he was ever given.
Speaker 2:Cause when he met him. He met him in a bar in Colorado and Johnny's just sitting up the back of this bar having a drink waiting on him and all he hears is screaming and all these flashes. And Hunter's walked in the bar with a cattle prod just zapping cunts and tells him to come on and then they go out to his ranch. He opens a case and night uh, absinthe, no, no, sorry. First they go, they make nitroglycerin bombs and go out into the ranch and start shooting them with shotguns and then he opens a case of absinthe. Johnny's like I had one bottle and they've passed out. I woke up in the morning all the other bottles were gone and Hunter was in the corner talking to himself.
Speaker 2:And he's just like what the fuck? And he's like and that was that was the first, his first meeting with with him and fucking all the interviews Cause see as well like fear and loathing, like what you're reading in the book. A lot of that is quite genuine. Like there's loads of interviews where they're trying to get him out hotel rooms that he's locked himself in for days and he's talking to cunts on the phone. I think sometimes the phones will be plugged in. You know what I mean. He's just walking around the room carrying this phone out his dial. Fucking. Be some mine to be inside for fucking five minutes. I think like you'd maybe need more than five minutes. Bank five minutes would be plenty You'd be ready to check out.
Speaker 1:Even just the book. I mean, I was just like man, this is, this is. This is just like reading anxiety. This is this is. If somebody says what is anxiety, go and read this book. This is fucking high tensile anxiety. This is taking your tension and seeing how fucking I'm taking it as tight as a catarcturing.
Speaker 2:Like I think watching the movie After a couple of mushrooms would be an experience like, especially, a big telly, like a big telly. Move the sofa close, just get right up close to it. Get rid of that surrounding space and just fill your field of vision with that and just watch the movie.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you man that is probably fucking. I remember like I remember the bit that I got to and I was going out in the park and I'm like I can't fucking listen to any more of this. I need I need like I just need nature. I don't need fucking high tensile, extreme anxiety. This guy's, this guy's transferring his anxiety through a fucking auto work into my body. My soul does need this Fucking hell.
Speaker 2:I read it again when I lived in Amsterdam. That was good fun. I would read tats going through the fucking.
Speaker 1:I can't imagine the poor fucker getting tattooed, having a listen to that or be reading it.
Speaker 2:I was reading the book yeah yeah, audubal wasn't a thing yet. When I was in Amsterdam I was like 12 years ago now, fucking hell, some of the countries to get coming in the shop in Amsterdam as well. I had one guy being in Amsterdam about an hour, some guy for London. He looked like the country changing rooms, can you add, like a floral shirt on burgundy cord flares, a fucking John Lennon Beatles haircut with the round glasses. He's been there. He's lost everyone he's with. He's lost all his luggage. He doesn't know where his hotel is, but he needs an imagine tattoo. What's imagine?
Speaker 2:I'm like come on in my guy.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? You lost.
Speaker 2:He's like I can't find anybody. I don't know what I've done with my luggage. I've obviously left it. So I'm like you're going to cause a bomb threat in the middle of Amsterdam. Just a random set of suitcases left next to a bench in the middle of Damns Square, but it was off his chomp. I'm like where are you going to go now? He's like I don't know, I'm just left, I'll wander, I'll be all right. So I made it on you go. He was fucking fried lad, but they don't care in Amsterdam.
Speaker 1:What are they fucking doing in Amsterdam? What do they manage to do in Amsterdam?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I feel like he might have. How do you?
Speaker 1:get that fucking out of his box in Amsterdam.
Speaker 2:I feel like he might operate like that on a daily basis. The guy looked like he operated up here daily. He was fucking out of the house.
Speaker 1:He didn't take too much to get to that level.
Speaker 2:I don't actually think I seen him walk. I think he literally floated he's hover. I don't think his legs were crossed.
Speaker 1:A fucking hovercraft of a guy.
Speaker 2:I was fucked. Amsterdam was someplace like.
Speaker 1:I've never been. I need to go to Stacewood. She says she really liked it.
Speaker 2:It's really good, like, I imagine, stacewood. I went and done the tourism hang, though, and just sight seen, and you need to. That's the best place to people watch, because you've got different sections. You can people watch as well. You can go into the red light district at various points and just sit and watch people. It's fucking tremendous. And then, if you get bored, you can start taking bets on how long guys are going to be in with the hookers. It's always good fun.
Speaker 1:Good way to. It's better than throwing fucking gifts at TikTok guys doing push-ups.
Speaker 2:Exactly, these guys are putting a shift in, whether it be for three minutes, eight minutes or ten minutes, they're putting a fucking shift in. It was good fun.
Speaker 1:Still a funny story about the talking to a guy in the airport. Went on a flight and this guy's just facially challenged.
Speaker 2:Sound.
Speaker 1:Not in doubt with good looks. He went and bought a lady of the night, paid like 350 euros.
Speaker 2:Fucking no Megadoh. That's expensive Only 50 euros.
Speaker 1:He brins them.
Speaker 2:We need to be clear. Apparently I didn't dabble before any presumptions are made, but apparently you need to. Before you step through the door, make sure every concage what's happening, Because all these rooms are interconnected to a flat above and a big man will come and tell you exactly what you have to pay. If the lady tells you if there was no preordained deal on the table, there was no verbal contract spoken, and if she makes a number and you don't want to pay it, a man will come down and make you fucking pay it, so best be paying it.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I think you just got caught in the moment, enjoyed himself, never even went the full way. It was just a thing to be touched by a goddess, something he knew was never going to be within his reach.
Speaker 2:Honestly, lad, you've got a supermodel at your fingertips. There's a few different areas to it, but the main bit. Like one of the alleyways I can't even walk through normally, it's too tight. I have to go through sideways and it's just women, women, women, women, women, and some of them are their supermodels. Lad, they can be yours for a mere 50 euros. 50 euros, I know it may have gone up now with inflation, we're going back 12 years, but you know, chuckle in your 10% or whatever.
Speaker 1:That sounds like a better way to spend an evening than fear and loathings Sort of nights. I think if you were going to buy ether or a supermodel for 50 euros.
Speaker 2:How easy it would be to get your hands on ether.
Speaker 1:You probably need to go to a fucking chemical store. I'm going to ask that.
Speaker 2:I'm going to put the question out there and see if it is achievable. I'm not going to order any, but I just want to see if you can.
Speaker 1:There's going to be some kind of there's going to be some day. There's always some day, Always some day. Look at the stuff you can get. I mean it's some day and always some day.
Speaker 2:I can pretty much. I know enough people to pretty much get my hands on anything, but I've never asked down the whole school.
Speaker 1:If anybody's ever considered ether go and read fear and loathing, I bet you don't go near it.
Speaker 2:You will change your mind rapidly. Most people on this won't even know what ether is. It's like the original anesthetic there's craziness. Yeah, and it was medical green banner and hunter drinks pints of it for a fucking laugh. Crazyness.
Speaker 1:So we hope you've enjoyed this episode of Conversations with an Investor with Big Mikey To say that we covered it all. We spoke about what is ether, both in the aetherical sense and in the fear and loathing sense, covered off Scottish magnificent mountains and going through three worlds in one hell. Discuss some of the continuations to the conspiracy theories governments Are we going through a time where weak men create hard times and, as the next series up, hard times create great men? We covered off what the next Monroe should be.
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